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I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

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  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

    I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

    It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

    No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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    @Remittancegirl Those cynics seem not to know that the Solidarity Movement and the Velvet Revolution accomplished their aims without violence

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    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

      I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

      It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

      No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

      ilumium@eupolicy.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Remittancegirl So true. If peaceful protest was "useless," peaceful protestors wouldn't be frequently beaten up by police for it.

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      • joannacanfixit@mastodon.socialJ joannacanfixit@mastodon.social

        @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl gathering support is important, but most of people already agree that genocide should be stopped, rich should get taxed and environment should be protected. What more popular support do you need?

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        @JoannaCanFixIT @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl
        "Gathering support" isn't just popular support.

        If you want direct action (including even simple action like encouraging people to vote), you need a situation where people who agree on things have each others' contact information and know and trust each other. The connections that enable direct action and support for direct action are more easily formed at protests. Dropping into conversation with the people around you and getting to know them is easier because you already have at least one thing in common. If you regularly see the same people at your local protests, you are building a community that didn't exist before.

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        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

          I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

          It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

          No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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          @Remittancegirl

          Basically this in fact:

          https://mastodon.social/@xs4me2/113895525737253534

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          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

            I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

            It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

            No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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            @Remittancegirl
            Last Saturday at our regular suburban protest, a young man approached me and asked what we were doing. He and I had a long discussion about politics. At some point he told me he was a member of the Proud Boys, so then I made the case that in a democracy we should settle our differences without resorting to violence. Who knows if I made any headway in his thinking but that conversation would not have happened were I not on the street holding my "Fire Hegseth Now" sign.

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            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

              I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

              It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

              No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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              @Remittancegirl

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              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                @Remittancegirl Cynicism and defeatism in general is running rampant on the internet. Not caring, or pretending not to care, is seen as cool. But a society that doesn't care will not solve its problems and die.

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                  It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                  No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                  #33

                  @Remittancegirl There's a lot of overlap with the people telling you _voting_ isn't worth doing. Or that voting to keep, you know, fascists out of office is bad somehow ("they're all fascists"). If they're rejecting the tools of democracy, they're on the side of the fascists.

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

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                    Project 2025 has six dynasties funding it, in alliance with petrostate despots like Putin & #PrinceBonesaw

                    https://www.desmog.com/2024/08/14/project-2025-billionaire-donor-heritage-foundation-donald-trump-jd-vance-charles-koch-peter-coors/

                    Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife Mellon, Seid, Uihlein

                    https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

                    These are the top GOP donors in 2024.
                    They're the ones funding the fascism.

                    1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                    2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                    3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                    4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                    5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                    6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                    7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800

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                    @Npars01 tax them on donations over, say, 100,000.

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                    • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                      @Remittancegirl There's a lot of overlap with the people telling you _voting_ isn't worth doing. Or that voting to keep, you know, fascists out of office is bad somehow ("they're all fascists"). If they're rejecting the tools of democracy, they're on the side of the fascists.

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                      @maccruiskeen @Remittancegirl
                      "Let's review here: You told me to vote for Joe Biden, to "stop fascism." I did that. Joe Biden did not stop fascism, and instead mass murdered Palestinians including starving children. Ergo, my vote to "stop fascism" did nothing to stop fascism and... murdered a bunch of brown people. And you're mad I won't do it again. Cool story. And you think you have the moral high ground here? I'd be embarrassed for you if I wasn't too busy barfing on my shoes."
                      -AnarchoNina

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