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  3. I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

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  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

    I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

    It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

    No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

    npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Remittancegirl

    nytimes.com

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    the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

    Remember the 3.5% rule.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/17/what-is-the-3-5-percent-protest-rule

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    The '3.5% rule': How a small minority can change the world

    Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

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    3.5% — A Small Number With Huge Implications

    Just 3.5% of a population engaged in nonviolent resistance can change everything. 150 yrs worth of data show it would take, say, 12 million Americans committed to civil resistance to create real and lasting change—even the change of government. The data are real. This is doable.

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    Nicola Griffith (nicolagriffith.com)

    The billionaires funding fascist movements globally get very nervous about that 3.5%.

    The fossil fuel industry is preparing to do anything, literally anything, to keep its power & wealth.

    Frying the planet & democracy.

    Just a moment...

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      #12

      @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl gathering support is important, but most of people already agree that genocide should be stopped, rich should get taxed and environment should be protected. What more popular support do you need?

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      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

        I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

        It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

        No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

        androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #13

        @Remittancegirl At the end of the day, even when the framework of democracy has been completely erased, getting out into the streets still works.

        There are definitely situations where voting no longer works - but no situation where bodily protest stops working.

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          @Remittancegirl

          nytimes.com

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          Trump to Big Oil Execs: Give Me $1 Billion and I'll Help You Wreck the Planet | Common Dreams

          "You won't read a more important story today," said one commentator. "Trump is willing to literally destroy the planet for $1 billion."

          favicon

          Common Dreams (www.commondreams.org)

          Link Preview Image
          Big oil spent $445m in last election cycle to influence Trump and Congress, report says

          Investments ‘likely to pay dividends’, analysis says, as Trump unleashes dozens of pro-fossil fuel executive actions

          favicon

          the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

          Remember the 3.5% rule.
          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/17/what-is-the-3-5-percent-protest-rule

          Link Preview Image
          The '3.5% rule': How a small minority can change the world

          Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

          favicon

          (www.bbc.com)

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule

          Link Preview Image
          3.5% — A Small Number With Huge Implications

          Just 3.5% of a population engaged in nonviolent resistance can change everything. 150 yrs worth of data show it would take, say, 12 million Americans committed to civil resistance to create real and lasting change—even the change of government. The data are real. This is doable.

          favicon

          Nicola Griffith (nicolagriffith.com)

          The billionaires funding fascist movements globally get very nervous about that 3.5%.

          The fossil fuel industry is preparing to do anything, literally anything, to keep its power & wealth.

          Frying the planet & democracy.

          Just a moment...

          favicon

          (www.americanprogress.org)

          1/

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          2/

          Project 2025 has six dynasties funding it, in alliance with petrostate despots like Putin & #PrinceBonesaw

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          These are the top GOP donors in 2024.
          They're the ones funding the fascism.

          1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
          2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
          3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
          4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
          5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
          6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
          7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800

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            Project 2025 has six dynasties funding it, in alliance with petrostate despots like Putin & #PrinceBonesaw

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            6 Billionaire Fortunes Bankrolling Project 2025

            More than $120 million from a few ultra-wealthy families who have spent years working to promote climate change denial has powered the Heritage Foundation and other groups that created the plan to remake American government.

            favicon

            DeSmog (www.desmog.com)

            Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife Mellon, Seid, Uihlein

            Link Preview Image
            Mapped: How 6 Billionaire Family Fortunes Fund Project 2025

            Unraveling a $130 million web of climate denial, political extremism, and Trump campaign ties.

            favicon

            DeSmog (www.desmog.com)

            These are the top GOP donors in 2024.
            They're the ones funding the fascism.

            1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
            2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
            3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
            4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
            5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
            6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
            7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800

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            The governing ideology of the far right has become a monstrous, supremacist survivalism. Our task is to build a movement strong enough to stop them

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            8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
            9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
            10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
            11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
            12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
            13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
            14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
            15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
            16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
            17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
            18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
            19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
            20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

              I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

              It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

              No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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              @Remittancegirl I always want to ask the people that slag off peaceful protest how many molotov cocktails they've thrown. Like, put up or shut up

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                Marc Andreessen’s Manifesto for Rule by the Few

                Drawing on a century-old theory about the inevitability of elite control, billionaire venture capitalist Marc Andreessen champions Silicon Valley as a new ruling class. His worldview revives the reactionary dream of greatness unencumbered by the masses.

                favicon

                (jacobin.com)

                Link Preview Image
                The rise of end times fascism | Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor

                The governing ideology of the far right has become a monstrous, supremacist survivalism. Our task is to build a movement strong enough to stop them

                favicon

                the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

                8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
                15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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                Why Was Walmart Selling White Nationalist T-Shirts?

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                Prison labour tied to Walmart and McDonald’s, investigation finds

                Two out of three prisoners are likely to be forced labourers

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                Trump’s 5-Step Fascist Plan

                He’s already laid each step out

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                (robertreich.substack.com)

                21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                  It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                  No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

                  wyckedyum@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wyckedyum@mastodon.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #18

                  @Remittancegirl

                  Thats purely plotted planned propaganda,
                  because
                  PROTEST is literally the only tool (we the) people have to combat corruption at the highest level.
                  Period.

                  Wish id seen such ridiculous commentary, because id have to object & explain why that in itself is: compliance/complicity/permission.

                  Protest, 24/7, with ample enough #’s of people, is doable & effective.

                  And while we succumb to the extravagance of white collar crime & allow it to continue, is acceptance & approval.

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

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                    Link Preview Image
                    Why Was Walmart Selling White Nationalist T-Shirts?

                    T-shirts for the infamous white-power band Skrewdriver were briefly being sold on the Walmart website by third-party retailers.

                    favicon

                    Rolling Stone (www.rollingstone.com)

                    Link Preview Image
                    Prison labour tied to Walmart and McDonald’s, investigation finds

                    Two out of three prisoners are likely to be forced labourers

                    favicon

                    The Independent (www.independent.co.uk)

                    Link Preview Image
                    Trump’s 5-Step Fascist Plan

                    He’s already laid each step out

                    favicon

                    (robertreich.substack.com)

                    21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                    22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                    23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                    24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                    25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                    26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                    27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                    28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                    29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                    30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                    31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                    32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                    33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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                    5/

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                    Trump met with Chris Reyes, leader of giant Rosemont food company

                    Chris Reyes, co-chairman of Reyes Holdings, is a major Chicago philanthropist and is a big donor to the Republican National Committee.

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                    Chicago Sun-Times (chicago.suntimes.com)

                    They funded a coup attempt.
                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/19/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-donald-trumps-2020-presidential-campaign/

                    https://www.chicagobusiness.com/manufacturing/how-reyes-holdings-became-biggest-beer-distributor-us/
                    https://archive.is/U5N6o

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/
                    https://archive.is/f9wGP

                    34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                    35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                    36. James Davis $8,497,854
                    37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                    38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                    39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                    40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                    41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                    42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                    • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                      @Remittancegirl I love seeing those interviews where there is some 65 year old white guy who is like “This is my first protest. I’ve never done anything like this before.” because it gives me some hope that more and more people are fed up with things.

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                      wrote last edited by
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                      @rasterweb Me too. Exactly this!

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        5/

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                        Trump met with Chris Reyes, leader of giant Rosemont food company

                        Chris Reyes, co-chairman of Reyes Holdings, is a major Chicago philanthropist and is a big donor to the Republican National Committee.

                        favicon

                        Chicago Sun-Times (chicago.suntimes.com)

                        They funded a coup attempt.
                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/19/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-donald-trumps-2020-presidential-campaign/

                        https://www.chicagobusiness.com/manufacturing/how-reyes-holdings-became-biggest-beer-distributor-us/
                        https://archive.is/U5N6o

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/
                        https://archive.is/f9wGP

                        34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                        35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                        36. James Davis $8,497,854
                        37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                        38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                        39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                        40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                        41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                        42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #21

                        6/

                        Keeping gas prices high for their corruption & greed.
                        https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hands-first-sale-of-swiped-oil-to-his-megadonors-company/

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                        'Unchecked Corruption': First US Sale of Venezuelan Oil Goes to Company of Trump Megadonor | Common Dreams

                        "Trump took Venezuela's oil at gunpoint, and gave it to one of his biggest campaign donors," wrote one US senator.

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                        First US Sale of Seized Venezuelan Oil Goes to Company of Trump Megadonor

                        Proceeds from the oil sale are being stashed in Qatar, an arrangement critics say opens the door to more corruption.

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                        43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                        44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                        45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                        46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                        47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                        48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                        49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                        50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                        51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                        52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416

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                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                          I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                          It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                          No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

                          geliga@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          geliga@mastodon.world
                          wrote last edited by
                          #22

                          @Remittancegirl the world is broken not because bad people's actions, but because of good people not doing anything 👍

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                            6/

                            Keeping gas prices high for their corruption & greed.
                            https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hands-first-sale-of-swiped-oil-to-his-megadonors-company/

                            Link Preview Image
                            'Unchecked Corruption': First US Sale of Venezuelan Oil Goes to Company of Trump Megadonor | Common Dreams

                            "Trump took Venezuela's oil at gunpoint, and gave it to one of his biggest campaign donors," wrote one US senator.

                            favicon

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                            Link Preview Image
                            First US Sale of Seized Venezuelan Oil Goes to Company of Trump Megadonor

                            Proceeds from the oil sale are being stashed in Qatar, an arrangement critics say opens the door to more corruption.

                            favicon

                            Truthout (truthout.org)

                            43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                            44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                            45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                            46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                            47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                            48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                            49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                            50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                            51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                            52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416

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                            #23

                            7/

                            Dead billionaire bigots fund Trump's corrupt regime.
                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2013/12/30/texas-billionaire-harold-simmons-dies-called-obama-most-dangerous-man-in-america/

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                            Harold Simmons, GOP Mega-Donor, Dead at 82

                            Harold Simmons, a Dallas businessman and billionaire, philanthropist and Republican mega-donor, died Saturday at Baylor University Medical Center at Dallas. He was 82.

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                            The Texas Tribune (www.texastribune.org)

                            Tax cheat & polluter
                            https://publicintegrity.org/politics/top-gop-donor-harold-simmons-dead-at-82/

                            archive.is

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                            The GOP's nuke-dump donor - Salon.com

                            Harold Simmons has given the most money to Republicans this election. Could his nuclear-waste dump be the reason?

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                            Salon.com (www.salon.com)

                            53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                            54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                            55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                            56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                            Just a moment...

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                            (www.opensecrets.org)

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                            • geliga@mastodon.worldG geliga@mastodon.world

                              @Remittancegirl the world is broken not because bad people's actions, but because of good people not doing anything 👍

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #24

                              @geliga Eh... I think it's probably both.

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                              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                punchymcgee@mastodon.social
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                                @Remittancegirl there was a brilliant take on this from Nato Green on the Bugle podcast recently. Basically saying mass protest movements have no chance and are never going to win until they do.

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                  It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                  No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                  @Remittancegirl Those cynics seem not to know that the Solidarity Movement and the Velvet Revolution accomplished their aims without violence

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                                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                    I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                    It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                    No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                    @Remittancegirl So true. If peaceful protest was "useless," peaceful protestors wouldn't be frequently beaten up by police for it.

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                                    • joannacanfixit@mastodon.socialJ joannacanfixit@mastodon.social

                                      @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl gathering support is important, but most of people already agree that genocide should be stopped, rich should get taxed and environment should be protected. What more popular support do you need?

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                                      @JoannaCanFixIT @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl
                                      "Gathering support" isn't just popular support.

                                      If you want direct action (including even simple action like encouraging people to vote), you need a situation where people who agree on things have each others' contact information and know and trust each other. The connections that enable direct action and support for direct action are more easily formed at protests. Dropping into conversation with the people around you and getting to know them is easier because you already have at least one thing in common. If you regularly see the same people at your local protests, you are building a community that didn't exist before.

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                                      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                        I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                        It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                        No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                        @Remittancegirl

                                        Basically this in fact:

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                                        "First They Came" by Pastor Martin Niemöller (1946) First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me #fascism #politics

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                                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                          I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                          It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                          No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                          jawarajabbi@mastodon.online
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                                          @Remittancegirl
                                          Last Saturday at our regular suburban protest, a young man approached me and asked what we were doing. He and I had a long discussion about politics. At some point he told me he was a member of the Proud Boys, so then I made the case that in a democracy we should settle our differences without resorting to violence. Who knows if I made any headway in his thinking but that conversation would not have happened were I not on the street holding my "Fire Hegseth Now" sign.

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