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  • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

    #regulations

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    @chartier

    Lower Value Human Capital (@pikesley@mastodon.me.uk)

    The Invisible Hand is currently irradiating prawns https://6abc.com/post/fda-warns-public-not-eat-possibly-radioactive-shrimp-great-value-brand-sold-walmart-13-states/17586897/

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    • possumpartyglider@mastodon.auP possumpartyglider@mastodon.au

      @babble_endanger @chartier The English used arsenic to adulterate their milk.

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      @PossumPartyGlider @babble_endanger @chartier

      Also: the very common English practice of adding sand to flour to lower the price of bread.

      And who can forget THE JUNGLE, the horrible US expose that unintentionally caused the creation of the Food and Drug Administration by revealing that labourers' severed members being mixed to minced meat wasn't a reason to not sell end-product.

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      • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

        @chartier BWAHAHAHAHA...Oh, dear sweet naive child. In some economic systems just COMPLAINING that they were being fed spoiled food measurably could kill them faster than the tainted goods themselves. You think it's capitalism forcing one quarter of north korea to starve to death? Capitalism that created the Holodomor?
        Become a better student of history. Regulations in many nations were ENTIRELY because it's ruling class enjoyed them was standard faire across the world until the late 1800's.

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        @Beggarmidas @chartier

        Regulations became necessary due to so-called absentee landlords who were hard to lynch (for obvious reasons) if they overstepped social rules. And as is well-known, absentee landlords exist due to capitalism promoting them as the #1 way to add wealth. Unionbusting to keep labour down is also non-nonviolent.

        Also: both your examples are of state capitalistic systems working under threat of war. Food poverty isn't limited presently to North Korea, as you well know.

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        • retrimental@mastodon.socialR retrimental@mastodon.social

          @chartier

          This is a lie, right?
          Tell me this is a lie, goddammit.

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          @retrimental @chartier

          I encourage you to google Sinclair's The Jungle. Powdered rock mixed with flour was also very popular in the 19th century.

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          @PossumPartyGlider@mastodon.au @babble_endanger@freeradical.zone @chartier@toot.cafe Also: the very common English practice of adding sand to flour to lower the price of bread. And who can forget THE JUNGLE, the horrible US expose that unintentionally caused the creation of the Food and Drug Administration by revealing that labourers' severed members being mixed to minced meat wasn't a reason to not sell end-product.

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          • laguiri@neopaquita.esL laguiri@neopaquita.es

            @chartier @DoomsdaysCW Oh, let me tell you an anecdote.

            The European Union has been very slow in coordinating and unifying its consumer protections.

            Spain joined the EEC in 1986.

            But back in 1984 we had one of the strictest consumer protection laws; it took years for the EU to "reach us" in stuff like informative labels. We also had quirks like a prohibition of bulk buying (as in, unpackaged) to final consumers.

            And it was because back in 1981, 330 people died and thousands got seriously ill from industrial-use oil sold as food-grade. To this day, people won't buy canola oil because the name sounds as poison. The case was a form of collective trauma.

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            @laguiri @chartier @DoomsdaysCW

            Generally speaking EU-standards are more lax than the state standards they replaced (as one size has to fit all). This is somewhat offset by the fact that the EU-standards are more ubiquitous than the previous spot-checks.

            The state standards were usually lobbied so that the worst local practices were grandfathered in to legislation, while disallowing practices found in imports. (The people most affected by the standards are also the people with most money. )

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            • sortius@infosec.exchangeS sortius@infosec.exchange

              @HunterZ @noodlemaz @chartier because it's posted on the internet. You do understand that the internet crosses the whole globe?

              Aaah hegemonic peoples, everyone else doesn't exist unless you let them

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              @sortius@infosec.exchange

              You're creating strawpeople needlessly

              Edit: got blocked for the above

              Edit2: also fun that a person complains both about US-centrism AND that a non-anglo might not write using the same phrases as they themselves would.

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              • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                @joel_falcou @chartier I am what I am DESPITE a public school system wanting me dead. I educated myself as I travelled the world on the survival skills I was forced to perfect just to survive those years. I always had 2-3 college textbooks in my duffel to read filling dead time between gigs.
                I don't let SM OP-ED bug me. But you've unintentionally stumbled into a minefeild because of all the lost life opportunities I might have had if it were even remotely true. knowing that now, care to reframe?

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                @Beggarmidas @chartier I don't recall asking for your sob stories. Those tired argument about "but the soviet union" are tiring. Usa style capitalism is a piece of shit that is killing the planet. But keep being a boomer

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                • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                  @cultdev @chartier right, but we're eating plastic instead.

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                  @alisynthesis @chartier yeah. by breathing, even, which is much worse than ingesting it. but there was a time the plastic milk also had chalk in it, and rot bacteria 📈📈📈

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                  • cultdev@mastodon.socialC cultdev@mastodon.social

                    @alisynthesis @chartier yeah. by breathing, even, which is much worse than ingesting it. but there was a time the plastic milk also had chalk in it, and rot bacteria 📈📈📈

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                    @cultdev @chartier we are so short sighted. Le sigh.

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                    • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                      @chartier BWAHAHAHAHA...Oh, dear sweet naive child. In some economic systems just COMPLAINING that they were being fed spoiled food measurably could kill them faster than the tainted goods themselves. You think it's capitalism forcing one quarter of north korea to starve to death? Capitalism that created the Holodomor?
                      Become a better student of history. Regulations in many nations were ENTIRELY because it's ruling class enjoyed them was standard faire across the world until the late 1800's.

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                      @Beggarmidas I don't live in North Korea or Ukraine, and neither does Dr Ellie Murray, ScD.

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                      • babble_endanger@freeradical.zoneB babble_endanger@freeradical.zone

                        @chartier chalk is actually safe to eat and a good vegan source of calcium. Tums antacids are basically chalk

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                        @babble_endanger @chartier

                        But chalk doesn't "unspoil" milk. Only changes its appearance.

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                        • dallo@pouet.chapril.orgD dallo@pouet.chapril.org

                          @chartier
                          Can you fix the "kill" in the alt text. Censuring is problematic

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                          @dallo Missed that, thanks. Fixed.

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                          • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

                            #regulations

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                            @chartier "Pure unadulterated capitalism" is also what makes the black market run. Benefits above everything else, including morals and other ppl lives.

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