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  • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

    #regulations

    estelle@mstdn.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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    @chartier given that these reforms were due to the muckraking journalism era, it's entirely possible that some of them weren't told about this

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    • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

      #regulations

      beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @chartier BWAHAHAHAHA...Oh, dear sweet naive child. In some economic systems just COMPLAINING that they were being fed spoiled food measurably could kill them faster than the tainted goods themselves. You think it's capitalism forcing one quarter of north korea to starve to death? Capitalism that created the Holodomor?
      Become a better student of history. Regulations in many nations were ENTIRELY because it's ruling class enjoyed them was standard faire across the world until the late 1800's.

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      • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

        #regulations

        decapitae@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @chartier Fast Forward to 2026 - Now, look and see

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        • lemgandi@mastodon.socialL lemgandi@mastodon.social

          @chartier

          And labor regulations are by and large written in blood.

          trebach@functional.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @lemgandi @chartier As are many of the warnings on packaging not to do certain things with the product

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          • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

            #regulations

            babble_endanger@freeradical.zoneB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @chartier chalk is actually safe to eat and a good vegan source of calcium. Tums antacids are basically chalk

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            • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

              #regulations

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              @chartier Moreover, it should be expensive. Regulations exist to make it more expensive to do the ethically wrong things than the right things.

              Non-compliance should be a terrifying, life-ruining event for a business.

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              • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

                #regulations

                aatch@mastodon.nzA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @chartier my "favourite" version of this is the fishing industry. Left to their own devices they will literally fish themselves out of business. Fisheries regulations are there to ensure that fisheries continue to exist.

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                • babble_endanger@freeradical.zoneB babble_endanger@freeradical.zone

                  @chartier chalk is actually safe to eat and a good vegan source of calcium. Tums antacids are basically chalk

                  possumpartyglider@mastodon.auP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @babble_endanger @chartier The English used arsenic to adulterate their milk.

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                  • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                    @chartier BWAHAHAHAHA...Oh, dear sweet naive child. In some economic systems just COMPLAINING that they were being fed spoiled food measurably could kill them faster than the tainted goods themselves. You think it's capitalism forcing one quarter of north korea to starve to death? Capitalism that created the Holodomor?
                    Become a better student of history. Regulations in many nations were ENTIRELY because it's ruling class enjoyed them was standard faire across the world until the late 1800's.

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                    @Beggarmidas @chartier yeah sorry you have been endoctrinatef by the retarded us departement of education.

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                    • joel_falcou@mastodon.socialJ joel_falcou@mastodon.social

                      @Beggarmidas @chartier yeah sorry you have been endoctrinatef by the retarded us departement of education.

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                      @joel_falcou @chartier ....If you only knew even a fraction of how badly off base you are....I didnt have academic opportunities. I didn't even have a real chance to graduate from high school. I had to get my GED at 17. Why? Because i was randomly singled out for special abuse during the satanicpanic by hysterical zealots staffing PUHSD.
                      Now i'm not a man given to wantonly hurt, but if you'd said such a thing to my face at any point after age 15 you'd shortly be finding yourself spitting teeth.

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                      • joel_falcou@mastodon.socialJ joel_falcou@mastodon.social

                        @Beggarmidas @chartier yeah sorry you have been endoctrinatef by the retarded us departement of education.

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                        @joel_falcou @chartier I am what I am DESPITE a public school system wanting me dead. I educated myself as I travelled the world on the survival skills I was forced to perfect just to survive those years. I always had 2-3 college textbooks in my duffel to read filling dead time between gigs.
                        I don't let SM OP-ED bug me. But you've unintentionally stumbled into a minefeild because of all the lost life opportunities I might have had if it were even remotely true. knowing that now, care to reframe?

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                        • chartier@toot.cafeC chartier@toot.cafe

                          #regulations

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                          @chartier

                          Lower Value Human Capital (@pikesley@mastodon.me.uk)

                          The Invisible Hand is currently irradiating prawns https://6abc.com/post/fda-warns-public-not-eat-possibly-radioactive-shrimp-great-value-brand-sold-walmart-13-states/17586897/

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                          • possumpartyglider@mastodon.auP possumpartyglider@mastodon.au

                            @babble_endanger @chartier The English used arsenic to adulterate their milk.

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                            @PossumPartyGlider @babble_endanger @chartier

                            Also: the very common English practice of adding sand to flour to lower the price of bread.

                            And who can forget THE JUNGLE, the horrible US expose that unintentionally caused the creation of the Food and Drug Administration by revealing that labourers' severed members being mixed to minced meat wasn't a reason to not sell end-product.

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                            • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                              @chartier BWAHAHAHAHA...Oh, dear sweet naive child. In some economic systems just COMPLAINING that they were being fed spoiled food measurably could kill them faster than the tainted goods themselves. You think it's capitalism forcing one quarter of north korea to starve to death? Capitalism that created the Holodomor?
                              Become a better student of history. Regulations in many nations were ENTIRELY because it's ruling class enjoyed them was standard faire across the world until the late 1800's.

                              iju@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Beggarmidas @chartier

                              Regulations became necessary due to so-called absentee landlords who were hard to lynch (for obvious reasons) if they overstepped social rules. And as is well-known, absentee landlords exist due to capitalism promoting them as the #1 way to add wealth. Unionbusting to keep labour down is also non-nonviolent.

                              Also: both your examples are of state capitalistic systems working under threat of war. Food poverty isn't limited presently to North Korea, as you well know.

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                              • retrimental@mastodon.socialR retrimental@mastodon.social

                                @chartier

                                This is a lie, right?
                                Tell me this is a lie, goddammit.

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                                @retrimental @chartier

                                I encourage you to google Sinclair's The Jungle. Powdered rock mixed with flour was also very popular in the 19th century.

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                                @PossumPartyGlider@mastodon.au @babble_endanger@freeradical.zone @chartier@toot.cafe Also: the very common English practice of adding sand to flour to lower the price of bread. And who can forget THE JUNGLE, the horrible US expose that unintentionally caused the creation of the Food and Drug Administration by revealing that labourers' severed members being mixed to minced meat wasn't a reason to not sell end-product.

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                                • laguiri@neopaquita.esL laguiri@neopaquita.es

                                  @chartier @DoomsdaysCW Oh, let me tell you an anecdote.

                                  The European Union has been very slow in coordinating and unifying its consumer protections.

                                  Spain joined the EEC in 1986.

                                  But back in 1984 we had one of the strictest consumer protection laws; it took years for the EU to "reach us" in stuff like informative labels. We also had quirks like a prohibition of bulk buying (as in, unpackaged) to final consumers.

                                  And it was because back in 1981, 330 people died and thousands got seriously ill from industrial-use oil sold as food-grade. To this day, people won't buy canola oil because the name sounds as poison. The case was a form of collective trauma.

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                                  @laguiri @chartier @DoomsdaysCW

                                  Generally speaking EU-standards are more lax than the state standards they replaced (as one size has to fit all). This is somewhat offset by the fact that the EU-standards are more ubiquitous than the previous spot-checks.

                                  The state standards were usually lobbied so that the worst local practices were grandfathered in to legislation, while disallowing practices found in imports. (The people most affected by the standards are also the people with most money. )

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                                  • sortius@infosec.exchangeS sortius@infosec.exchange

                                    @HunterZ @noodlemaz @chartier because it's posted on the internet. You do understand that the internet crosses the whole globe?

                                    Aaah hegemonic peoples, everyone else doesn't exist unless you let them

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                                    @sortius@infosec.exchange

                                    You're creating strawpeople needlessly

                                    Edit: got blocked for the above

                                    Edit2: also fun that a person complains both about US-centrism AND that a non-anglo might not write using the same phrases as they themselves would.

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                                    • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                                      @joel_falcou @chartier I am what I am DESPITE a public school system wanting me dead. I educated myself as I travelled the world on the survival skills I was forced to perfect just to survive those years. I always had 2-3 college textbooks in my duffel to read filling dead time between gigs.
                                      I don't let SM OP-ED bug me. But you've unintentionally stumbled into a minefeild because of all the lost life opportunities I might have had if it were even remotely true. knowing that now, care to reframe?

                                      joel_falcou@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Beggarmidas @chartier I don't recall asking for your sob stories. Those tired argument about "but the soviet union" are tiring. Usa style capitalism is a piece of shit that is killing the planet. But keep being a boomer

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                                      • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                                        @cultdev @chartier right, but we're eating plastic instead.

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                                        @alisynthesis @chartier yeah. by breathing, even, which is much worse than ingesting it. but there was a time the plastic milk also had chalk in it, and rot bacteria 📈📈📈

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                                        • cultdev@mastodon.socialC cultdev@mastodon.social

                                          @alisynthesis @chartier yeah. by breathing, even, which is much worse than ingesting it. but there was a time the plastic milk also had chalk in it, and rot bacteria 📈📈📈

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                                          @cultdev @chartier we are so short sighted. Le sigh.

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