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Scribus , the open source desktop publishing software I use for my comics, just had two new releases!

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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    @raven @rapsneezy2 @corvus_ch It took me 7 failed print proof to find a setting with DriveThruRPG/Comics: I'm sharing it here https://www.davidrevoy.com/article757/the-english-book-printed-project-production-report-3

    I understand they officially stopped their support; their machines needs a PDF/X-1a support with a broken ICC color profile that the FLOSS LittleCMS project refused to make a workaround (so it's broken in Gimp/Krita/Scribus/everything)

    It's really specific PDF, and it was a nightmare to make the right type of files. Took me 3 years...

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    @davidrevoy @raven @corvus_ch

    David - i just read your journey - wow, what a journey.

    It does show how, even after many years, basic things are still a challenge with open source software. Understandable as these tasks are very much specialist and not what most users do at home - and so attract less developer attention.

    I was surprised by the Scribus bugs given how they have long centred themselves as a serious DTP option.

    Hopefully your feedback and findings will result in improvements.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      @raven @rapsneezy2 @corvus_ch It took me 7 failed print proof to find a setting with DriveThruRPG/Comics: I'm sharing it here https://www.davidrevoy.com/article757/the-english-book-printed-project-production-report-3

      I understand they officially stopped their support; their machines needs a PDF/X-1a support with a broken ICC color profile that the FLOSS LittleCMS project refused to make a workaround (so it's broken in Gimp/Krita/Scribus/everything)

      It's really specific PDF, and it was a nightmare to make the right type of files. Took me 3 years...

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      @davidrevoy I like how you incorporated a description of your test parameters into the back cover of the book.

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      • rapsneezy2@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy2@mastodon.social

        @davidrevoy @raven @corvus_ch

        David - i just read your journey - wow, what a journey.

        It does show how, even after many years, basic things are still a challenge with open source software. Understandable as these tasks are very much specialist and not what most users do at home - and so attract less developer attention.

        I was surprised by the Scribus bugs given how they have long centred themselves as a serious DTP option.

        Hopefully your feedback and findings will result in improvements.

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        @davidrevoy @raven @corvus_ch

        I had similar colour frustrations about 10 years ago and in the end I moved to Affinity software on macos which did a better job.

        But the quality of colour rendition of POD publishers was so poor, even with excellent PDFs (inlcuding variability, good one day, bad the next, and they don't always the same printers depending on workload) .. i just gave up.

        for my books I avoid any assumptions of colour inside the book now.

        (that wouldn't work for "art" like yours)

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        • raven@fedi.raventhemaker.comR raven@fedi.raventhemaker.com

          @davidrevoy @rapsneezy2 @corvus_ch Oof. The broken color profile is definitely a road block.

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          @raven @davidrevoy @corvus_ch

          this is a colour bug for libreoffice going back to 2018 and still not fixed

          116846 – Colour profile issues with edit view and PDF export compared to Preview

          favicon

          (bugs.documentfoundation.org)

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            @sven_ola Screenshots of Scribus running on Debian KDE with the Pepper&Carrot books on it (CC By)

            - Sources: https://framagit.org/peppercarrot/book-publishing (require 24GB)
            - Books: https://www.davidrevoy.com/static9/shop#official

            #scribus

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            @davidrevoy
            wow, that would really improve Scribus website which sorely miss any screenshot (at least any I could find!)

            @sven_ola

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              @sven_ola Screenshots of Scribus running on Debian KDE with the Pepper&Carrot books on it (CC By)

              - Sources: https://framagit.org/peppercarrot/book-publishing (require 24GB)
              - Books: https://www.davidrevoy.com/static9/shop#official

              #scribus

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              @davidrevoy @sven_ola Is there a way to buy your books from a EU-based web store? DriveThru is a US company, and in the current climate I'd rather prefer my money to not cross the ocean.

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              • ced@mapstodon.spaceC ced@mapstodon.space

                @davidrevoy
                wow, that would really improve Scribus website which sorely miss any screenshot (at least any I could find!)

                @sven_ola

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                Thanks @davidrevoy ! I was not aware that you published all via Git. I am still waiting for my PC to silence it's fans, but then I have something to show off in a live scribus. A big THANK YOU. 🥰
                cc @ced

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                • rapsneezy2@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy2@mastodon.social

                  @davidrevoy @raven @corvus_ch

                  David - i just read your journey - wow, what a journey.

                  It does show how, even after many years, basic things are still a challenge with open source software. Understandable as these tasks are very much specialist and not what most users do at home - and so attract less developer attention.

                  I was surprised by the Scribus bugs given how they have long centred themselves as a serious DTP option.

                  Hopefully your feedback and findings will result in improvements.

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                  @rapsneezy2 @davidrevoy @corvus_ch Yeah, this surprises me with Scribus, claiming it can be used for professional publishing. I didn't expect it to be so fiddly.

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                  • rapsneezy2@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy2@mastodon.social

                    @davidrevoy @raven @corvus_ch

                    David - i just read your journey - wow, what a journey.

                    It does show how, even after many years, basic things are still a challenge with open source software. Understandable as these tasks are very much specialist and not what most users do at home - and so attract less developer attention.

                    I was surprised by the Scribus bugs given how they have long centred themselves as a serious DTP option.

                    Hopefully your feedback and findings will result in improvements.

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                    @rapsneezy2 @raven @corvus_ch Thank you for reading! Yes, I'm still surprised this compatibility between Scribus and DriveThruRPG/Comic printing system wasn't a central point of Scribus. Lightning Source print on demand machines are still the number one indi printing solution, and Scribus could position themselves on offering a premium experience for this audience. But worst, they lost it.
                    A bit like if a video editor project ignored they couldn't export to a major player like Youtube.

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                    • emilion@infosec.exchangeE emilion@infosec.exchange

                      @davidrevoy @sven_ola Is there a way to buy your books from a EU-based web store? DriveThru is a US company, and in the current climate I'd rather prefer my money to not cross the ocean.

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                      @emilion @sven_ola Hey Emilion, I totally understand, and I would do the same 👍

                      Unfortunately, for the self publishing books 100% made with FLOSS, that was the only company/solution I found long time ago, before that was so problematic (the Brexit put a lot of tax on the UK print pod). I might need to look for a EU print-on-demand solution soon.

                      For the version of the publisher Silly Studio (Italian publisher), they just put their Italian/English version in the shop https://sillystudiosofficial.com/shop/

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        @sven_ola Screenshots of Scribus running on Debian KDE with the Pepper&Carrot books on it (CC By)

                        - Sources: https://framagit.org/peppercarrot/book-publishing (require 24GB)
                        - Books: https://www.davidrevoy.com/static9/shop#official

                        #scribus

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                        @davidrevoy @sven_ola wondering, can the individual palettes (properties, Arrange Pages, align & distribute etc) be torn off to separate floating windows / put on separate displays (IIRC Krita can do that)?

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                        • metaning@mastodon.socialM metaning@mastodon.social

                          @davidrevoy @sven_ola wondering, can the individual palettes (properties, Arrange Pages, align & distribute etc) be torn off to separate floating windows / put on separate displays (IIRC Krita can do that)?

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                          @metaning @sven_ola Yes, exactly the same paradigm than Krita for the dockers windows (it's Qt), they can be docked or floating, and once floating, you are free to put them on the monitor of your choice.

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            @emilion @sven_ola Hey Emilion, I totally understand, and I would do the same 👍

                            Unfortunately, for the self publishing books 100% made with FLOSS, that was the only company/solution I found long time ago, before that was so problematic (the Brexit put a lot of tax on the UK print pod). I might need to look for a EU print-on-demand solution soon.

                            For the version of the publisher Silly Studio (Italian publisher), they just put their Italian/English version in the shop https://sillystudiosofficial.com/shop/

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                            @davidrevoy @sven_ola Check print houses in Poland too. Example: https://www.drukksiazek.pl/ (never used them personally)

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