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I managed to take my kid to the elementary chess nationals for the weekend, without installing or using proprietary software apps!

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  • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

    I managed to take my kid to the elementary chess nationals for the weekend, without installing or using proprietary software apps! I managed without apps for car rides, hotel, train, food delivery or the chess tournament itself (and no GPS)! Of course I used proprietary javascript for some bookings. It took extra leg work (mostly while my kid was playing) but I didn't even have to ask anyone else to help me with any of these things. Whew!! This shouldn't be such an accomplishment, but it is!

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    I also learned that people who have iphones have to install a "find on page" app in order to just search a web page on a browser for text? Odd!

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    • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

      I also learned that people who have iphones have to install a "find on page" app in order to just search a web page on a browser for text? Odd!

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      With Mozilla Corp making such a mess of the open web in recent years, I'm just glad there is still Safari being developed in competition to Chrome.

      Safari is not #FreeSoftware, but at least its necessity on iOS provides *some* incentive to actually uphold a standards-based web.

      @karen

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      • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

        I managed to take my kid to the elementary chess nationals for the weekend, without installing or using proprietary software apps! I managed without apps for car rides, hotel, train, food delivery or the chess tournament itself (and no GPS)! Of course I used proprietary javascript for some bookings. It took extra leg work (mostly while my kid was playing) but I didn't even have to ask anyone else to help me with any of these things. Whew!! This shouldn't be such an accomplishment, but it is!

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        @karen Nice! I wish more people would be aware of websites as an option, and use them. I also don't use apps for any of those things — I've done them all recently besides the chess tournaments. I do use open source map/GPS apps like CoMaps, which use #openstreetmaps data. Bank websites are often an option, too, though I understand that's harder in some places.

        Websites over proprietary apps. Spread the good word!

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        • sharif@fosstodon.orgS sharif@fosstodon.org

          @karen Nice! I wish more people would be aware of websites as an option, and use them. I also don't use apps for any of those things — I've done them all recently besides the chess tournaments. I do use open source map/GPS apps like CoMaps, which use #openstreetmaps data. Bank websites are often an option, too, though I understand that's harder in some places.

          Websites over proprietary apps. Spread the good word!

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          @karen By the way, you've lived rent-free in my head as the cyborg lawyer for 15+ years, and I've followed your work from afar during that time. Thanks for all you do!

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          • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

            I also learned that people who have iphones have to install a "find on page" app in order to just search a web page on a browser for text? Odd!

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            @karen what? No, it is just weirdly hidden behind the share feature

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            • phako@chaos.socialP phako@chaos.social

              @karen what? No, it is just weirdly hidden behind the share feature

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              @phako oh interesting, the iPhone users were all teaching each other to install it, as happily the website was updating faster than the app

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              • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

                I managed to take my kid to the elementary chess nationals for the weekend, without installing or using proprietary software apps! I managed without apps for car rides, hotel, train, food delivery or the chess tournament itself (and no GPS)! Of course I used proprietary javascript for some bookings. It took extra leg work (mostly while my kid was playing) but I didn't even have to ask anyone else to help me with any of these things. Whew!! This shouldn't be such an accomplishment, but it is!

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                @karen Congrats! The extra effort is an awesome lesson.
                I've been lazier, and taught my grade-school kids the art of burner phones.

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                • phako@chaos.socialP phako@chaos.social

                  @karen what? No, it is just weirdly hidden behind the share feature

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                  @phako @karen Or just tap in the address bar and select “find in page” at the bottom. I’ve never heard of an app for that; that’d be absurd.

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                  • bignose@fosstodon.orgB bignose@fosstodon.org

                    It's effectively an experience as a second-class citizen @karen. The rhetoric asserts that proprietary protocols and systems are freely chosen. But for those who opt out, who choose #SoftwareFreedom, we find *our* lives burdened by the proprietary systems *others* chose without our consent.

                    And those who accept the shackles of proprietary systems, don't bear the burden of finding those alternate paths because everything assumes you've put those shackles on, and is unreliable if you don't.

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                    @bignose @karen

                    I think it's rather those who are subject to mass surveillance and enshittification of proprietary apps who are second-class citizen. Guess who is also not affected by this? Rich people, because they can afford to pay actual humans instead of using apps. It's called "analog privilege": https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4528278

                    Of course, there's a price to pay (sometimes even literally) when you want to avoid all this, but that's kind of the point of being rich: Pricing out all the others so you can have to good stuff for yourself.

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                    • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

                      I managed to take my kid to the elementary chess nationals for the weekend, without installing or using proprietary software apps! I managed without apps for car rides, hotel, train, food delivery or the chess tournament itself (and no GPS)! Of course I used proprietary javascript for some bookings. It took extra leg work (mostly while my kid was playing) but I didn't even have to ask anyone else to help me with any of these things. Whew!! This shouldn't be such an accomplishment, but it is!

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                      @karen absolutely appropriate. This should not be a big accomplishment.
                      btw I got floss dot cfd for a dollar, and laughed again when I saw "floss.social" I have to see more of it.

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                      • a@pdx.socialA a@pdx.social

                        @phako @karen Or just tap in the address bar and select “find in page” at the bottom. I’ve never heard of an app for that; that’d be absurd.

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                        @phako @karen @a honestly the fact that there are two completely different ways which require someone on fedi telling you how to do it makes an app kind of rational sounding

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                        • a@pdx.socialA a@pdx.social

                          @phako @karen Or just tap in the address bar and select “find in page” at the bottom. I’ve never heard of an app for that; that’d be absurd.

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                          @a @karen Now that you write that, I think the one in Share isn't supposed to be working anymore in 26? No idea why I still have it

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                          • pa@hachyderm.ioP pa@hachyderm.io

                            @karen Congrats! The extra effort is an awesome lesson.
                            I've been lazier, and taught my grade-school kids the art of burner phones.

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                            @pa I agree, it just gets harder and harder all the time!

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                            • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

                              I managed to take my kid to the elementary chess nationals for the weekend, without installing or using proprietary software apps! I managed without apps for car rides, hotel, train, food delivery or the chess tournament itself (and no GPS)! Of course I used proprietary javascript for some bookings. It took extra leg work (mostly while my kid was playing) but I didn't even have to ask anyone else to help me with any of these things. Whew!! This shouldn't be such an accomplishment, but it is!

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                              @karen congrats on the chess nationals!

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                              • karen@floss.socialK karen@floss.social

                                I also learned that people who have iphones have to install a "find on page" app in order to just search a web page on a browser for text? Odd!

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                                @karen Is there not a #firefox port available on iOS?

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                                • baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.usB baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us

                                  @karen Is there not a #firefox port available on iOS?

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                                  @BalooUriza truly I am so pleased to say that I have no idea what is available on iOS 🙂

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