I was involuntarily listening to two old ladies talking loudly to each other the other day.
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@bodluricon @Nickiquote
North Manchester: muffins.
South Manchester: barm cakes
Probably the Mercia/Northumbria border.
Boundary a bit blurred these days.@markhburton @Nickiquote
For those interested ... I did a spot of searching last night and there is an unexpected amount of research on who calls a "bun" what and where across the UK... Including regional distribution maps. People have put an impressive amount of work in to this...
Different words for a bread roll across the U.K.
One of the things I really like and am interested in are the different quirks and vagaries of every day life and language. Whilst countries such as France celebrate their regions and differences, too often in the U.K. such things are watered down or ignored leading to widespread ignorance of ancient traditions, foods and cultures.…
Stephen Liddell (stephenliddell.co.uk)
Cobs, buns, baps or barm cakes: what do people call bread rolls?
New data from YouGov Profiles reveals the regional differences in the names used for a bread roll
(yougov.com)
Barm vs cob: Why Britain has so many names for a bread roll
Over centuries, Britons have been divided over just what to call a bread roll. The patchwork of alternative names say much about its history and how the English language evolved
(www.bbc.co.uk)
A roll? A cob? A barm? What do you call yours? - BBC Bitesize
An explanation into why different regions have different names for a bread roll
BBC Bitesize (www.bbc.co.uk)
Apologies if BBC articles are geo-blocked
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@Nickiquote The key to a good chip barm is mushy peas.
@TMangnall @Nickiquote Bonus Points for the use of the correct terminology: Barm.
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@Verovitry @Nickiquote
And those are real chips, not silly 'French fries'!@markhburton @Nickiquote of course. This is Belgium!
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I was involuntarily listening to two old ladies talking loudly to each other the other day. One, to the astonishment of the other, said she had never had a chip butty.
Being a true man of the world, I have had many chip butties in my time.
FYI, if needed, a chip butty is chips (ie french fries, NOT crisps) sandwiched between bread slices or in a bap/bun. Arguably it should be buttered, but we will ignore that for the purposes of the following poll:
Q. HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A CHIP BUTTY?
@Nickiquote
Without wishing to take this off on another tack, ..but I will, it may be worth mentioning the two aspects of the "butty". It is usually a "*something fried* butty". Where *something fried* is usually one (or more) of:
️ Chips : bulky, thick cut sticks of twice fried potato (French fries outside of places that call a chip a chip but not to be confused with the string thin waif like wisps of spud sold in fast food restaurants or on the continent)
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@Nickiquote
Without wishing to take this off on another tack, ..but I will, it may be worth mentioning the two aspects of the "butty". It is usually a "*something fried* butty". Where *something fried* is usually one (or more) of:️ Chips : bulky, thick cut sticks of twice fried potato (French fries outside of places that call a chip a chip but not to be confused with the string thin waif like wisps of spud sold in fast food restaurants or on the continent)
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️Bacon : Rashers of greasy, or crisp fried thinly sliced pig.️Sausage : the traditional "banger"️Fried Egg : a fried egg.
EDIT: missed the second element!
The "Butty" is the bread, be it sliced bread or roll, with a "bread grease" (butter, marge, lard, dripping or other similar bread lube) applied thickly so it will melt and run down your fingers and chin (the filings all being hot from the pan / frier).
Giving you:️Chip butty️Bacon butty️Sausage butty️Egg butty
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@markhburton @Nickiquote
For those interested ... I did a spot of searching last night and there is an unexpected amount of research on who calls a "bun" what and where across the UK... Including regional distribution maps. People have put an impressive amount of work in to this...
Different words for a bread roll across the U.K.
One of the things I really like and am interested in are the different quirks and vagaries of every day life and language. Whilst countries such as France celebrate their regions and differences, too often in the U.K. such things are watered down or ignored leading to widespread ignorance of ancient traditions, foods and cultures.…
Stephen Liddell (stephenliddell.co.uk)
Cobs, buns, baps or barm cakes: what do people call bread rolls?
New data from YouGov Profiles reveals the regional differences in the names used for a bread roll
(yougov.com)
Barm vs cob: Why Britain has so many names for a bread roll
Over centuries, Britons have been divided over just what to call a bread roll. The patchwork of alternative names say much about its history and how the English language evolved
(www.bbc.co.uk)
A roll? A cob? A barm? What do you call yours? - BBC Bitesize
An explanation into why different regions have different names for a bread roll
BBC Bitesize (www.bbc.co.uk)
Apologies if BBC articles are geo-blocked
@bodluricon I’m from Nottinghamshire so it’s always been a cob for me. I used to work for a couple from Barnsley who used teacake (it was a pub that sold cobs at lunchtime)
We challenged them of course and asked what they called an actual tea cake (a sweet roll with dried fruit in, similar to a hot cross bun without the cross), they insisted, “That’s a teacake with currants in”
We agreed to differ but only ever sold cobs
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I can attest that spreading the bread with olive oil works just as well. Indeed, I might ask: why mess about with a hit-and-miss method of heating butter to reproduce the rheology of olive oil when you could just use olive oil in the first place?
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I was involuntarily listening to two old ladies talking loudly to each other the other day. One, to the astonishment of the other, said she had never had a chip butty.
Being a true man of the world, I have had many chip butties in my time.
FYI, if needed, a chip butty is chips (ie french fries, NOT crisps) sandwiched between bread slices or in a bap/bun. Arguably it should be buttered, but we will ignore that for the purposes of the following poll:
Q. HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A CHIP BUTTY?
@Nickiquote What are the counties representing
1. Where I and from?
2. Where I live?
3. Where I ate said butty (if I ate one)?FWIW I have lived significant parts of my life in multiple countries and also have more than one nationality.
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Respectfully I beg to differ.
In t' north of England, commonly, it can mean either.
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Respectfully I beg to differ.
In t' north of England, commonly, it can mean either.
@essjayjay @NormanDunbar @Nickiquote yep, I agree there.
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@Nickiquote
Some 55 years ago, a university department in a northern city put on a social evening for new students, in a pub. "Do you do food?" "Yes we'll put on a spread for you".
The food arrived, white sliced bread, margarine and a mountain of chips, with 'sauces' of course. Chip butties!
It freaked the southerners a bit.Look, I'm a southerner from a long line of southerners - seriously, my ancestors have been in Cambridgeshire, Essex, and Suffolk ever since Thomas Cromwell first told the vicars to write down who they'd baptised - and I've been familiar with the chip butty from very early childhood. Can we stop with these claims of northern ownership of the concept, please?
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@Nickiquote What are the counties representing
1. Where I and from?
2. Where I live?
3. Where I ate said butty (if I ate one)?FWIW I have lived significant parts of my life in multiple countries and also have more than one nationality.
@Nickiquote Actually, while I still think greater clarity would be be better for my own part, on of my nationalities is British and I have eaten a chip butty England.
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I was involuntarily listening to two old ladies talking loudly to each other the other day. One, to the astonishment of the other, said she had never had a chip butty.
Being a true man of the world, I have had many chip butties in my time.
FYI, if needed, a chip butty is chips (ie french fries, NOT crisps) sandwiched between bread slices or in a bap/bun. Arguably it should be buttered, but we will ignore that for the purposes of the following poll:
Q. HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A CHIP BUTTY?
@Nickiquote When you say eaten... I've had a bite, but didn't eat the rest. Ew...
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Oh gosh, I want it, and I've only just had lunch!
Personally, I would add grated cheese and tomato ketchup, for the butty de la butty...
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I was involuntarily listening to two old ladies talking loudly to each other the other day. One, to the astonishment of the other, said she had never had a chip butty.
Being a true man of the world, I have had many chip butties in my time.
FYI, if needed, a chip butty is chips (ie french fries, NOT crisps) sandwiched between bread slices or in a bap/bun. Arguably it should be buttered, but we will ignore that for the purposes of the following poll:
Q. HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A CHIP BUTTY?
@Nickiquote for Australian’s it’s Rosie’s at Coledale near Wollongong.
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@ambientspace @Nickiquote @bigvimto May I interest you in a slappy? (A pasty / pie sandwich)
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@PGBeattie @BenCotterill @Nickiquote This is the way.
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