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  • malwareminigun@infosec.exchangeM malwareminigun@infosec.exchange

    @nazokiyoubinbou https://chipsandcheese.com/p/intel-meteor-lakes-npu

    > Meteor Lake’s iGPU has no problem beating the NPU, as Intel’s slide suggests. My “All GPU” result of 1.38 iterations per second aligns very closely with Intel’s 20 iterations over 14.5 seconds, or 1.379 iterations per second. The iGPU has a noticeable 62% performance advantage over the NPU, even while chugging a full-fat FP32 model. If I level the playing field by handing Intel’s INT8 model to the iGPU, its lead extends to a massive 261%. Finally, a discrete GPU like AMD’s RX 6900 XT is 6.7 times faster even when using FP32.

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    @malwareminigun I thought we weren't comparing discreet GPUs for the obvious reason mentioned above? A 6700XT is not even on the same scale as a NPU... A proper comparison would be like running it on a modern Ryzen chip's built-in GPU.

    I'll accept the point on meteor lake, though I'm not sure if they're at the same level even then

    Honestly, I suppose it's probably, more than anything else, to free up the GPU so it won't impact gaming or force them to pause the data collection while the GPU is in heavy use. I kind of added edits to that effect, but I'll go all out and say outright that it may be that more than anything else. This way even if you're in a game there is essentially hardware dedicated to doing this stuff in the background that barely impacts anything else in the system.

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

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      What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

      Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

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      PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

      UPDATE: This is false. See below

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      @mttaggart hopefully, I'm not gonna run on my hardware, that's for sure

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      • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

        @malwareminigun I thought we weren't comparing discreet GPUs for the obvious reason mentioned above? A 6700XT is not even on the same scale as a NPU... A proper comparison would be like running it on a modern Ryzen chip's built-in GPU.

        I'll accept the point on meteor lake, though I'm not sure if they're at the same level even then

        Honestly, I suppose it's probably, more than anything else, to free up the GPU so it won't impact gaming or force them to pause the data collection while the GPU is in heavy use. I kind of added edits to that effect, but I'll go all out and say outright that it may be that more than anything else. This way even if you're in a game there is essentially hardware dedicated to doing this stuff in the background that barely impacts anything else in the system.

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        @nazokiyoubinbou I'm citing this for the IGP numbers being substantially higher. That a DGP is another factor of three or more is expected but not the main point here.

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        • malwareminigun@infosec.exchangeM malwareminigun@infosec.exchange

          @nazokiyoubinbou I'm citing this for the IGP numbers being substantially higher. That a DGP is another factor of three or more is expected but not the main point here.

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          #21

          @malwareminigun Alright, well, I'm assuming that this means you agree to the answer to the question then.

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          • bmoreinis@federated.pressB bmoreinis@federated.press

            @mttaggart @catsalad Or maybe not: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2026-March/043510.html #ubuntu #ageverification

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            @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad Luckily there are more Linux distros out there than Ubuntu that will not so easily roll over to the amerikan bullshit

            Ubuntu has not been the best desktop option for a long time so if they want to be complicit then people will go elsewhere

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            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

              Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

              Link Preview Image
              What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

              Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

              favicon

              PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

              UPDATE: This is false. See below

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              @mttaggart @BjoernBeck So we are again having Microsoft producing a lot of pc garbage with this version of windows. Oh boy.

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              • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                @bmoreinis jesus fucking christ..not compatible with FOSS

                how about they just move to another jurisdiction ? fuck the fascists and their tentacles

                this person has no moral compass. should not be a dev. they instantly capitulate to, "how can I do the fascism for them?!"

                @mttaggart @catsalad

                #FuckAaronRainbolt

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                @bweller @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad

                Well, there are other Linux distributions who won't care what California demands.

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                • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                  @bweller @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad

                  Well, there are other Linux distributions who won't care what California demands.

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                  #25

                  @dazo i hope so

                  @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad

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                  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                    @bweller @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad

                    Well, there are other Linux distributions who won't care what California demands.

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                    #26

                    @dazo @bweller @mttaggart @catsalad I know.... but I manage a mutual aid team service that puts Mint on old donated devices and trains and supports users who need them, is all. It's what folks know. <sigh>

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                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                      Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                      Link Preview Image
                      What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                      Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                      favicon

                      PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                      UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                      @mttaggart

                      Let's be kind to them, everyone. We were all Linux newbies once!

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                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                        Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                        Link Preview Image
                        What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                        Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                        favicon

                        PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                        UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                        @mttaggart Great update, from something that nobody wants right now to something that nobody wants to see at a distance in a whole lifetime.
                        Microslop marketing must had some insight by the armageddon guys.

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                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                          Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                          Link Preview Image
                          What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                          Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                          favicon

                          PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                          UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                          @mttaggart seriously someone should try to vibe code a Linux distro just to see how much better it would be compared to Windows

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                          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                            Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                            Link Preview Image
                            What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                            Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                            favicon

                            PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                            UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                            @mttaggart Re: Microsoft 12
                            After a company stops growing they need to do something else, to keep the profits increasing. Often that can be bad for their customers:

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                            Grow or Die

                            For its whole life, Amazon faced a classic capacity planning problem that everyone has. You need to have many machines at the busy time of the year, but they will lie idle the rest of the year. While growing rapidly, your answer is easy: arrange to buy the needed machines as late as possible, so…

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                            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                              Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                              Link Preview Image
                              What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                              Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                              favicon

                              PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                              UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                              @mttaggart that could be a hard sale especially if they repeat win 11 up min required hardware given AI companies are basically buying up all the ram, etc they can get a hold of jacking the prices up for the rest of us. And then there is the last two years of absolute disaster patch day after another with more breaking or even bricking machines than not...

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                              • tess@mastodon.socialT tess@mastodon.social

                                @mttaggart it's the year of Linux on the Desktop (for real this time!)

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                                @tess @mttaggart YearOfLinuxDesktop_updated-final _FINAL_v1.8.exe

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                                • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                                  @bmoreinis jesus fucking christ..not compatible with FOSS

                                  how about they just move to another jurisdiction ? fuck the fascists and their tentacles

                                  this person has no moral compass. should not be a dev. they instantly capitulate to, "how can I do the fascism for them?!"

                                  @mttaggart @catsalad

                                  #FuckAaronRainbolt

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                                  @bweller
                                  Just a correction: Shrimp Jesus fucking Christ.
                                  @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad

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                                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                    Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                                    Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                                    favicon

                                    PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                                    UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                                    @mttaggart
                                    I remember Microsoft bragging hard that Windows 10 was the last version to be shipped ever. New features were supposed to come as regular updates.

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                                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                      Sounds like we're about to get a lot more Linux users!

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      What clues reveal about a possible Windows 12

                                      Here's what we know about Windows 12 based on all the rumors, leaks, and sources over the past few years, from "Hudson Valley Next" to "CorePC" and more.

                                      favicon

                                      PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

                                      UPDATE: This is false. See below

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                                      Oh cool PCWorld just printed lies/slop I guess.

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                                      No, an AI-focused "Windows 12" is not coming this year — here's the plan

                                      A new report has caught the internet's attention, claiming that Windows 12 is coming this year and will be a modular, AI-powered OS. Here's why that's wrong.

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                                      • crackhappy@cyberpunk.lolC crackhappy@cyberpunk.lol

                                        @bweller @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad Agreed. Instant capitulation to fascism there.

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                                        @crackhappy @bweller @bmoreinis @mttaggart @catsalad Ubuntu said that's an open list discussion, not commentary from the developers or anything official. It's not instant anything, fortunately.

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                                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                          Oh cool PCWorld just printed lies/slop I guess.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          No, an AI-focused "Windows 12" is not coming this year — here's the plan

                                          A new report has caught the internet's attention, claiming that Windows 12 is coming this year and will be a modular, AI-powered OS. Here's why that's wrong.

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                                          Windows Central (www.windowscentral.com)

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                                          @mttaggart welp. Guess I get to remove them from ye olde RSS feed.

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