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Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

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  • mcv@friendica.opensocial.spaceM mcv@friendica.opensocial.space

    @iaruffell @randahl

    The past decade has left me with a dire shortage of words to express my disappointment in Labour. You'd think it would have been trivial to out up a decent opposition to the clown circus of the Tories, but they didn't, and when they finally got power forced on them because the Tories were such an unmitigated disaster, Labour had no idea what to do with it.

    Please replace them with the LibDems and Greens. And please not with Ukip/Reform.

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    #31

    @mcv @iaruffell @randahl My disappointment with Labour started when Tony Blair took the UK into the illegal invasion of Iraq.

    The UK Greens on their current path seem to offer the only hope for a left leaning party of the people.

    The UK FPTP political system forces the creation of large monolithic parties that have to be broad churches.

    A socialist Green party will inevitably be pressured from within by capitalist Greens.

    PR, of almost any flavour would be better than the current situation.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

      — Iceland in the EU
      — Britain rejoining the EU
      — Norway fully joining the EU
      — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
      — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
      — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
      — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
      — Rise of European streaming services
      — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

      (Joking, but still…)

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      wrote last edited by
      #32

      @randahl unfortunately, current developments in the EU are not that positive regarding freedom, democracy and human rights. CDU playing stupid games in Germany. For example, in Baden-Württemberg they might try to not form a government with the Greens and then cause reelections. Merz, Spahn and Reiche are playing the Project 2025 playbook. And despite a recent defeat in Italy, Meloni still is on with weakening the judiciary in Italy. More Trump might not be the best thing.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

        — Iceland in the EU
        — Britain rejoining the EU
        — Norway fully joining the EU
        — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
        — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
        — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
        — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
        — Rise of European streaming services
        — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

        (Joking, but still…)

        dacig@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #33

        @randahl - Dismantle NATO
        - Kick the 60,000 US troops out of Europe.

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          @randahl And all it costs would be a few million people in concentration camps.

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          wrote last edited by
          #34

          @drahardja @randahl Most likely yes. Although there's always the risk of that happening anyway sadly.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

            — Iceland in the EU
            — Britain rejoining the EU
            — Norway fully joining the EU
            — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
            — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
            — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
            — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
            — Rise of European streaming services
            — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

            (Joking, but still…)

            pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #35

            @randahl Nice dream, though!

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            • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36

              @nickfarmer@mastodonapp.uk @randahl Oh look. Another Brit who blames the Americans. Remind me who overthrew the democratically elected Iranian government in 1953 and triggered decades of repression and wealth expropriation?

              It was the CIA and the British. The author, Miles Copeland, is buried in an English country graveyard.

              There's no amnesia like British amnesia.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                — Iceland in the EU
                — Britain rejoining the EU
                — Norway fully joining the EU
                — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                — Rise of European streaming services
                — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                (Joking, but still…)

                zbrando@social.vivaldi.netZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #37

                @randahl I thought the same thing. Having Trump as president of the United States is painful but finally something is moving in the EU space.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                  — Iceland in the EU
                  — Britain rejoining the EU
                  — Norway fully joining the EU
                  — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                  — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                  — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                  — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                  — Rise of European streaming services
                  — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                  (Joking, but still…)

                  jdrm@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @randahl

                  - Replace VISA and Mastercard with other payment system

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                    — Iceland in the EU
                    — Britain rejoining the EU
                    — Norway fully joining the EU
                    — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                    — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                    — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                    — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                    — Rise of European streaming services
                    — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                    (Joking, but still…)

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                    #39

                    @randahl
                    We really do not need a third Trump's term for all of that.

                    Also, while it's generally agreed that Trump's USA is worse than anything before, we should consider that the USA have NEVER been a true friend of the "EU". It's their interest that Europe stays a group of separate, independent, divided countries. Always has been.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                      — Iceland in the EU
                      — Britain rejoining the EU
                      — Norway fully joining the EU
                      — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                      — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                      — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                      — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                      — Rise of European streaming services
                      — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                      (Joking, but still…)

                      mostlytato@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #40

                      @randahl
                      In the UK, I've heard the idea posited that we should want ReformUK Ltd to win seats at the May local elections so they can demonstrate their incompetence to the electorate in advance of the general election, years out.
                      It's true that a push in one direction tends to initiate a harder counter push in the other, but what a dangerous strategy.

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                      • zbrando@social.vivaldi.netZ zbrando@social.vivaldi.net

                        @randahl I thought the same thing. Having Trump as president of the United States is painful but finally something is moving in the EU space.

                        morrick@appdot.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #41

                        @zbrando @randahl MEGA Trump — Make Europe Great Again! 😄

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                          — Iceland in the EU
                          — Britain rejoining the EU
                          — Norway fully joining the EU
                          — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                          — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                          — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                          — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                          — Rise of European streaming services
                          — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                          (Joking, but still…)

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                          #42

                          @randahl I have a dream🫶

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                            — Iceland in the EU
                            — Britain rejoining the EU
                            — Norway fully joining the EU
                            — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                            — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                            — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                            — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                            — Rise of European streaming services
                            — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                            (Joking, but still…)

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                            #43

                            @randahl

                            All good except for taking the #UK back please. Even when they were members they were always half arsed about it. Plus they'd only be a Reform victory away from leaving again. Keep them out

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                              — Iceland in the EU
                              — Britain rejoining the EU
                              — Norway fully joining the EU
                              — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                              — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                              — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                              — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                              — Rise of European streaming services
                              — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                              (Joking, but still…)

                              holgerh@gruene.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #44

                              @randahl

                              I agree to all you listed except the third term for Trump. He is a thread for us all, I couldn't take that. It would also be hard to bear for USA. Just remember what he has done and what he is doing.
                              But thank you for the list. It is inspiring.

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                              • joshbuddy@sfba.socialJ joshbuddy@sfba.social

                                @randahl

                                – Canada joins the EU
                                – We develop continent severing technology and float Canada on over
                                – EU goes carbon negative
                                – Putin dies and Ukraine joins the EU

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                                #45

                                @joshbuddy @randahl

                                I want Ukraine to defeat the Russians and join NATO (hopefully US-less but still effective), however them joining the EU is a different matter. We have enough corrupt, ultraconservative Eastern European countries already, thank you very much!

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                                  — Iceland in the EU
                                  — Britain rejoining the EU
                                  — Norway fully joining the EU
                                  — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                                  — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                                  — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                                  — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                                  — Rise of European streaming services
                                  — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                                  (Joking, but still…)

                                  rasta@zeroes.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #46

                                  @randahl

                                  Or we could pass the hat and hire that mercenary we were considering?

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                                    — Iceland in the EU
                                    — Britain rejoining the EU
                                    — Norway fully joining the EU
                                    — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                                    — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                                    — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                                    — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                                    — Rise of European streaming services
                                    — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                                    (Joking, but still…)

                                    mediocreman@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #47

                                    @randahl Ha Ha,
                                    But many a true word is spoken in jest.

                                    Yes.
                                    And I would like to see former colonies of Europe have preferential trade deals with EU and UK.

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                                      — Iceland in the EU
                                      — Britain rejoining the EU
                                      — Norway fully joining the EU
                                      — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                                      — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                                      — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                                      — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                                      — Rise of European streaming services
                                      — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                                      (Joking, but still…)

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #48

                                      @randahl I mean, Europe could break out of its apathy on their own without there being a couple more Alex Prettis or Renee Goods in my country... Kinda a crap joke if ya ask me.

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                                        — Iceland in the EU
                                        — Britain rejoining the EU
                                        — Norway fully joining the EU
                                        — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                                        — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                                        — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                                        — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                                        — Rise of European streaming services
                                        — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                                        (Joking, but still…)

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #49

                                        @randahl
                                        😬 There was once a comedy routine of #JimJefferies about electing Trump where he jokingly said: "...fuck it. Let's do it. Lets see how crazy this shit gets.."

                                        Well. We've seen it. We see the ruines and the deaths around the globe.
                                        So i'd say. Nope. Not one inch more. Not one fucking day. Not even as a joke.
                                        Hell no.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

                                          — Iceland in the EU
                                          — Britain rejoining the EU
                                          — Norway fully joining the EU
                                          — All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
                                          — Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
                                          — An end to European collaboration with American NSA
                                          — More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
                                          — Rise of European streaming services
                                          — Full bankruptcy of Tesla

                                          (Joking, but still…)

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #50

                                          @randahl So much winning!

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