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Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

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  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

    I wonder how many others do this.

    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

    dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #34

    @mike The worst slimy pattern is doing this with a complicated preferences panel that, when you finally click "save preferences", puts up a box saying there was an error saving preferences and kicks you back to the start. Instant nope. Breaking law, attempting plausible deniability, exploiting sunk cost fallacy.

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    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

      I wonder how many others do this.

      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

      meznor@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #35

      @mike I definitely do this (but I also go down their stupid UI-nightmare rabbit hole to see if I have options first, and usually it’s buried in there somewhere).

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      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

        I wonder how many others do this.

        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

        —
        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

        lazyb0y@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #36

        @mike
        i admit too often im too curious and still do the extra clicks to get to the content and sometimes, which is also way too often, i also click „accept all“

        the most important fact:

        „we care about privacy“ is a lie if it’s coming in a cookie banner.

        who really cares about privacy can do real necessary cookies without additional banner.
        who does it anyway deserves no click at all - not reject all, not extra preferences settings, and least accept all

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        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

          I wonder how many others do this.

          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

          —
          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

          karlauerbach@sfba.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #37

          @mike I also often skip websites that try to make me jump through privacy hoops.

          If they don't honor my browser's signals for global privacy preference (as well as the older do-not-track) then F-'em.

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          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

            @jokeyrhyme Yes, exactly. Under what circumstances would any informed person EVER do anything other than Deny All?

            srazkvt@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #38

            @mike @jokeyrhyme when the deny all is behind a 5€ per month subscription

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            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

              I wonder how many others do this.

              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

              —
              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

              nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #39

              @mike Been doing it since the day I first encountered it

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              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                I wonder how many others do this.

                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                —
                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                cvtsi2sd@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #40

                @mike Same, but if I'm really interested and there's no easy way to reject all I open the page in an anonymous window.

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                • gim@lou.ltG gim@lou.lt

                  @mike @jokeyrhyme there were mentions/news last year, that things (regulation-wise) will be simplified - for end-users that is I'm not sure where/how that ended though.

                  Btw, I'm aware that's not the solution to malicious compliance, but Consent-o-matic add-on usually does the job well.

                  yacc143@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #41

                  @gim @mike @jokeyrhyme That's another try to be US-Bigtech friendly by the politicians/EU commission.
                  The problem the runway for that is getting shorter and shorter. The last time (In the never ending Schrems Saga) the ECJ bound the GDPR privacy rights literally directly to the Charter, so bending the GDPR to weaken privacy literally would require EU Treaty changes.
                  So the whole thing the EU Commission is planning stands on wooden feet, but it will buy the "IT industry" a couple of months/years.

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                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                    I wonder how many others do this.

                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                    —
                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                    jezcaudle@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #42

                    @mike @dangillmor Same.

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                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                      I wonder how many others do this.

                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                      —
                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                      horstworst@social.tchncs.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @mike
                      me too

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                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                        I wonder how many others do this.

                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                        —
                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                        bbaugh@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #44

                        @mike I do that too!
                        Relatedly I have been getting completely blocked pages because I use an ad blocker and am redirected to a page that says I need to allow them to serve content I don’t want. I don’t follow that either.

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                        • mkoek@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #45

                          @jokeyrhyme @mike In the EU, the ones where you have to deselect a gazillion cookies are actually malicious non-compliance, they have been found illegal. Unfortunately there isn’t much enforcement, so it mostly continues.

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                          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                            I wonder how many others do this.

                            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                            —
                            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                            duke_of_germany@mastodon.gamedev.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #46

                            I do exactly the same. I refined this just a little bit recently:
                            When I am *really* curious about the article, I turn on the browser‘s „reader“ mode to see if it then reveals the full article. If it still does not work, I close the tab.
                            @mike @onepict

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                            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                              I wonder how many others do this.

                              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                              —
                              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                              hszakher@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #47

                              @mike I give it another chance via archive.is link. Otherwise, I don't bother with the article

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                              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                I wonder how many others do this.

                                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                —
                                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #48

                                @mike #metoo

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                                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                  I wonder how many others do this.

                                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                  —
                                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                  frieke72@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #49

                                  @mike 🙋🏼‍♀️ same

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                                  • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #50

                                    @jokeyrhyme @mike EU should've made adherence to Do Not Track mandatory.

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                                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                      I wonder how many others do this.

                                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                      —
                                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                      kryten@veganism.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #51

                                      @mike I could be mistaken but I think if you have 3rd party (cross site) cookies blocked in your browser settings it doesn't matter what cookies they try to set.

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                                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                        I wonder how many others do this.

                                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                        —
                                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                        nicelady@theforkiverse.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #52

                                        @mike I do this too.

                                        If it's something I feel like I "need" to read then I open it in Duck and burn after reading. Don't know if it's ideal but makes me feel better at least.

                                        I'd honestly prefer them to say "we're tracking you and sharing your data to make money" than read "we care about your privacy" one more time.

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                                        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                          I wonder how many others do this.

                                          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                          —
                                          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                          bjn@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #53

                                          @mike Almost the same, I’ll spend a second or two hunting for the “reject all” button in case they’ve hidden it somewhere on the page. If I really really need to read the thing and I can’t find a reject all, or have to disable 7000 different “trusted” associates one by one, I’ll open it in a different brower’s icognito window.

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