Europe, the AI Continent.
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@alextecplayz @EUCommission training is different to using. Even if you run a slimmed down and aggregated model, the model it was trimmed from was a monster that consumed petabytes of data and cost billions in electricity and hardware, over thousands of CPU years of time to train.
@guigsy @EUCommission but wouldn't you rather run that training once a year or once in a long while? AI models are constantly being trained and re-trained all the time, but we're at a point where the average Joe doesn't need the latest model to answer his (potentially stupid or embarrassing) questions at 3AM.
And we do have nuclear and renewables, nothing could theoretically stop us from having a 100% renewable AI training facility sometime in the future, besides cooling which still requires vast amounts of water.
We just need to stop the AI bros from this bullshit hype, and revisit the LLM concept sometime in the future. What models we have right now are enough, but they have their stupid visions that genAI will lead us to General AI which is just plain BS. We don't need more models to be trained.
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@guigsy @EUCommission but wouldn't you rather run that training once a year or once in a long while? AI models are constantly being trained and re-trained all the time, but we're at a point where the average Joe doesn't need the latest model to answer his (potentially stupid or embarrassing) questions at 3AM.
And we do have nuclear and renewables, nothing could theoretically stop us from having a 100% renewable AI training facility sometime in the future, besides cooling which still requires vast amounts of water.
We just need to stop the AI bros from this bullshit hype, and revisit the LLM concept sometime in the future. What models we have right now are enough, but they have their stupid visions that genAI will lead us to General AI which is just plain BS. We don't need more models to be trained.
@alextecplayz @EUCommission there's clearly diminishing returns on LLMs. They've run out of content to consume. Brute forcing the learning is making smaller gains for exponentially more money each cycle. And the benefits are still a long way short of what the techbros promised years ago. But they've got up keep fuelling the hype train and doubling down or they'll be called out as the emperors with no clothes.
Let the bubble burst. Let the sanity return. Then see what's useful. Burn the rest.
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@alextecplayz @EUCommission there's clearly diminishing returns on LLMs. They've run out of content to consume. Brute forcing the learning is making smaller gains for exponentially more money each cycle. And the benefits are still a long way short of what the techbros promised years ago. But they've got up keep fuelling the hype train and doubling down or they'll be called out as the emperors with no clothes.
Let the bubble burst. Let the sanity return. Then see what's useful. Burn the rest.
@guigsy @EUCommission Hard agree, but we still don't know when this stupid bubble will burst (or if it will burst instead of moving directly to a new hype bubble). And when it does eventually burst, it'll be damaging to the world's economy.
Hopefully when it does burst training content unethically becomes uneconomical and we actually end up with genuine uses cases for genAI.
I'll still advocate for the lesser evil of what we currently have, small models, discouraging the humanizing of LLMs, and self-hosting it if someone really needs it, it's an improvement over ChatGPT.
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@guigsy @EUCommission Hard agree, but we still don't know when this stupid bubble will burst (or if it will burst instead of moving directly to a new hype bubble). And when it does eventually burst, it'll be damaging to the world's economy.
Hopefully when it does burst training content unethically becomes uneconomical and we actually end up with genuine uses cases for genAI.
I'll still advocate for the lesser evil of what we currently have, small models, discouraging the humanizing of LLMs, and self-hosting it if someone really needs it, it's an improvement over ChatGPT.
@alextecplayz @EUCommission a large proportion of the damage isn't the hosting chat sessions. It's the training to create the models in the first place. OpenAI spend billions for each new revision of ChatGPT. Roughly half of all the energy that ChatGPT 3 consumed across all data centre use, was on training, before it ran a single public chatbot. 4 and 5 were probably no more efficient.
And running locally doesn't mean less energy consumed, just it's warming your house instead of a data centre.
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@SalemsLot @n_dimension @cstross @EUCommission if you persuade your companies to take VC money you will also never become sovereign
@Susan_calvin @SalemsLot @cstross @EUCommission
VC funding model is less common in Europe
They are all communist socialists there.
Taxpayers infrastructure.
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission Yeah, no.
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9Inspiring A Butlerian Jihad since Spring 2025
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@Susan_calvin @SalemsLot @cstross @EUCommission
VC funding model is less common in Europe
They are all communist socialists there.
Taxpayers infrastructure.
Did you not get the memo?@n_dimension @SalemsLot @cstross @EUCommission dude, you have not looked at the European Innovation Council at all.
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission no, we absolutely must NOT adopt this planet-burning fashtech. See my latest pinned post for dozens of reasons.
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission Is that €1 billion earmarked to support all the European people who's servers are getting obliterated by the "AI" crawlers?
Or is supporting the people who's work are getting regurgritated by the "AI" not a concern? Is it only the big tech companies that need to be pumped up with money before the bubble bursts?
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission I wonder if this toot is GAI generated? Nothing makes sense for me.
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@n_dimension @SalemsLot @cstross @EUCommission dude, you have not looked at the European Innovation Council at all.
@SalemsLot @cstross @EUCommission @Susan_calvin
Funny, I was going to say exactly that
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission Hoping that this bubble will finally burst - this can‘t be serious here. Going all in for something ruining the world these days? Countdown to extinction but hey, at least we‘re in Europe!
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission The second paragraph has strong "Yesterday we were on the edge of an abyss. Today we are a big step further." energy.
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission I would much rather you support Ukraine more and kick out Hungary. Oh, and write posts yourself. Be Human Continent.
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9 -
Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission Please say sike
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission La IA ya sé ha usado para decidir cuantos miles de niños mueren y cuantos no en guerras. ¿Ya se usa la IA europea para decidir objetivos militares o cuanto falta para eso? El uso en medicina e investigación de LLMs es algo minoritario, y hasta ahora las IA's han matado más personas que las que ha salvado. ¿Cuanta agua habéis robado al consumo humano para eso, a cuanta gente le habéis cuadruplicado el precio de la electricidad y el agua potable, a cuantas habéis dejado sin trabajo?
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Europe, the AI Continent.
One year ago, we launched the AI Continent Action Plan. Since then, we have made huge strides:
19 AI factories are now live across EU countries. We established the AI Skills Academy to train experts. The AI Omnibus is cutting costs for business. We have earmarked €1 billion to support AI adoption in industry. We are building a secure and innovative AI future for Europe.
Here's how
https://link.europa.eu/nj3VH9@EUCommission How is this compatible with tackling the climate crisis? Wouldn't this money be better used to promote human intelligence instead for a change?
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@EUCommission Read. The. Room.
A *lot* of the people on Mastodon are creators who have had their intellectual property stolen to feed the generative AI models, with at least one of the billionaires involved openly admitting/bragging that his business model would not be profitable if they had to pay fair royalties for that intellectual property.
A lot of people on Mastodon are deeply concerned about the environmental damage, AI hallucinations, theft of personal/corporate data, and sundry other issues.
There are forms of analytical AI that are useful (e.g. analysis of medical images) and do not involve any of the above. You do not appear to be referring to such analytical models.
@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu"A lot of the people on Mastodon are creators who have had their intellectual property stolen to feed the generative AI models, with at least one of the billionaires involved openly admitting/bragging that his business model would not be profitable if they had to pay fair royalties for that intellectual property."
For several years I have held back from publishing most of my writings and papers and algorithms due to this AI theft machine. I am holding out hope for the bubble to burst or for court rulings that favor creators who litigate over their IP being stolen by these evil tech lords.
AI hoovering has caused a massive chilling effect on my speech and code because once I put it out there the tech bros can steal it and deny me credit or payment, making it trivial for others to steal my work as well.
