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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

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  • roadskater@mastodon.socialR roadskater@mastodon.social

    @Voxofgod @Jeroen89 Jeepers, as a kid on long family trips, I recall having to clean the windshield off when we stopped for gas. I haven't driven a car in a couple decades — so scraping bugs off is no longer a thing?

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    @roadskater @Jeroen89 my last long trip, I had hardly any hit

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    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

      Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

      Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

      #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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      @Jeroen89 this is why we need large regions with untouched diversity - rainforests and wetlands, deserts & northern forests - so nature can trive. Where we must not destroy everything.

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      • misty@digipres.clubM misty@digipres.club

        @CyReVolt @martaczc It's by a random landscaping company that doesn't normally post illustrations, so I'm inclined to think yes, it's AI-generated.

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        @misty @CyReVolt @martaczc

        There is no doubt that it is AI-generated. If you look closely, there's a depiction of a flying fish (Exocoetidae), which is native to the tropic and subtropic oceans, and not – you know – temperate forests.

        Also, the tandem dragonfly (Anax tandemicus) went extinct in the 1740's.

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        • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @souldessin but the state parks aren't sufficient. The more we 'develop', the worse it becomes.

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          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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            @Jeroen89 Do this with public space, please.

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            • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

              @Jeroen89 If you want a jungle, you need to let it be a jungle. There's no "carefully extracting some resources" or any such thing, it will destroy the jungle. (I use jungle in a generic way to mean "nature, undisturbed" if I may.) And that's why with capitalism, you cannot have jungles. All jungles will be "extracted for profit" because growing the jungle is an externalized (to the past) cost, not having the jungle is an externalized (to the future) cost, but profit is being made NOW. Want change? Gotta go chop down some rich people instead of trees, no way around it. 🤷 (Figuratively, of course. But chop you must.)

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              @phf @Jeroen89 No and No. When i grew up our woods were spruce monocultures and the soil was sterile due to deer and darkness and a thick layer of needles. Storms and good huntig and farming now made it look like your 1800 picture.

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              • gdjp@mastodon.sdf.orgG gdjp@mastodon.sdf.org

                @misty @kete @sarae How would one confirm if this was AI generated or human drawn?

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                @gdjp @misty @kete @sarae you can't really. At this point your best bet is to ask the person who posted/claims to have made it and even then they might just lie to you because the people who do this and aren't full-on AIbros harassing artists are deeply ashamed of it because they know what the public opinion is 🥲

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                • kurt@chaos.socialK kurt@chaos.social

                  @phf @Jeroen89 No and No. When i grew up our woods were spruce monocultures and the soil was sterile due to deer and darkness and a thick layer of needles. Storms and good huntig and farming now made it look like your 1800 picture.

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                  @Kurt Ah yes, the ever-present myth of humans making nature more natural by (carefully?) editing it. Because nature alone is "too dumb" to do it properly. Remind you of other colonial thinking patterns? Yikes.

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                  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                    @Jeroen89 This phenomenon merits a more emotive name!

                    As for the graphic - in all too many rural places, there's barely an insect to be seen.

                    Happily, I came across a veritable insect hotspot this week - a small farm in Sussex that has been chemical free for a decade or more... Insects everywhere - more than I can remember seeing for a long time!

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                    • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                      @Jeroen89

                      I was taught that Mesopotamia was "The Fertile Crescent", and that it is in what today is Iraq and Turkey.

                      I remember watching the news in 1991 the first time we bombed the shit out of Iraq. It didn't look very fertile to me. It looked like a desert.

                      Same thing?

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                      @Uair @Jeroen89
                      The area was named the fertile crescent specifically for river valleys, and what they were like over 3000 years ago. The area was already becoming dryer at that time, and about 60,000 years ago the whole Arabian peninsula was a jungle.
                      Also the war wasn't fought in the prime farming areas.

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                      • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                        @Jeroen89 this is why we need large regions with untouched diversity - rainforests and wetlands, deserts & northern forests - so nature can trive. Where we must not destroy everything.

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                        @Jeroen89 In addition the same for oceans. There's so much damage already due to climate heating but also deep sea mining and fossil fuel pollution!

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                        • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                          Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                          Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                          #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                          @Jeroen89 I remember that butterfly I saw in 2020.

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                          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                            @Jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be the irony of talking about climate change with ai slop graphics

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              @Jeroen89 ok, but it's pretty ironic that you're illustrating this with AI style graphics

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                              @sarae @Jeroen89 Does explain why the tree on the left seems to age backwards.

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