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Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.

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  • chessert@mastodon.onlineC chessert@mastodon.online

    @NorcalGma2

    Before she married, my Grandma Hessert worked as a house maid. After my Grandpa Hessert died, she again worked scrubbing floors to get my Dad through graduate school (MD, PhD).

    There's certainly no shame in physical labor. But as you say, there is shame in treating any human as your "inferior". Such a thing does not exist in Nature, only in your warped imagination.

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    @chessert
    Eventually I figured out that the most profitable gig for me was putting together boxes of my fresh bread bread and homemade jam. I could sell as many as I could put together.
    I found that I was treated better when baking for people than sewing or cleaning.

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    • bfordham@infosec.exchangeB bfordham@infosec.exchange

      @NorcalGma2 💯 I come from a family of carpenters. Before he got into construction my grandfather was a sharecropper. I write software now, but my first job was building houses.

      I never look down on people who do physical labor of any type. I’m glad I don’t do it S my job anymore. But I’m grateful for it.

      Btw it’s also why I hate the term “redneck.” Most of my family are rednecks in the most literal sense.

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      @Bfordham
      I understand.
      My mother trained to work as a domestic servant at Indian boarding school. She taught me to clean and sew. I learned to cook because she didn't cook.
      I taught my kids all of these skills because they are good skills to have.
      Once my kids were in school and until I retired I mostly did office work.

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      • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

        Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
        My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
        I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
        I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
        I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
        I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
        The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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        @NorcalGma2 💜

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        • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

          Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
          My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
          I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
          I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
          I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
          I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
          The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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          @NorcalGma2

          My grandfather was a janitor.

          He was the most humble, caring man I ever knew.

          There were no less than 100 people there to wish him farewell with us.

          Even the sky wept with us that day.

          I appreciate your humility and care. The world would be so terribly ugly if people like you were not a part of it.

          Thank you for the things you do.

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          • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

            Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
            My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
            I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
            I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
            I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
            I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
            The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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            @NorcalGma2 I totally agree with you there. I’m sorry some folks were unkind to you.

            No one who does an honest day’s work should be looked down on for their profession.

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            • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

              Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
              My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
              I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
              I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
              I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
              I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
              The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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              @NorcalGma2 As the owner of a toilet that is over a hundred years old that has seen a bit of use in that time, I'm interested in your process. I'm assuming it's the Bar Keeper's Friend product you're referring to which I guess must work on porcelain too unless you have stainless steel toilets. (don't know, maybe you got a deal on some left over prison units)

              But the pumice stone baffles me. Seems like that would really scratch the porcelain.

              Mind sharing your technique?

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              • 955_36@sfba.social9 955_36@sfba.social

                @NorcalGma2 As the owner of a toilet that is over a hundred years old that has seen a bit of use in that time, I'm interested in your process. I'm assuming it's the Bar Keeper's Friend product you're referring to which I guess must work on porcelain too unless you have stainless steel toilets. (don't know, maybe you got a deal on some left over prison units)

                But the pumice stone baffles me. Seems like that would really scratch the porcelain.

                Mind sharing your technique?

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                @955_36
                I use the liquid bartenders friend to clean first with a soft brush. I use a wet pumice stone to carefully remove any mineral build up especially under the bowl rim. You can damage the porcelain if you get too aggressive with the scraping. The stone has to be soaked with water first. I am careful and then I disinfect the whole toilet. My toilets come out looking like new.
                When I moved in Tim was using comet cleanser which can also leave scratches and is bad for our septic system.

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                • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

                  @955_36
                  I use the liquid bartenders friend to clean first with a soft brush. I use a wet pumice stone to carefully remove any mineral build up especially under the bowl rim. You can damage the porcelain if you get too aggressive with the scraping. The stone has to be soaked with water first. I am careful and then I disinfect the whole toilet. My toilets come out looking like new.
                  When I moved in Tim was using comet cleanser which can also leave scratches and is bad for our septic system.

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                  @NorcalGma2 I never knew Comet is bad for septic systems. I knew it could be bad for porcelain. I'm going to have to get a pumice stone. Other than volcanoes, where is a good place to pick one up?

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                  • 955_36@sfba.social9 955_36@sfba.social

                    @NorcalGma2 I never knew Comet is bad for septic systems. I knew it could be bad for porcelain. I'm going to have to get a pumice stone. Other than volcanoes, where is a good place to pick one up?

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                    @955_36 @NorcalGma2 Our previous house in California had really hard water. I used a pumice stone to clean up 25 years of deposits in about 10-15 minutes of work per toilet. My wife got it at the local Ace.

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                    • 955_36@sfba.social9 955_36@sfba.social

                      @NorcalGma2 I never knew Comet is bad for septic systems. I knew it could be bad for porcelain. I'm going to have to get a pumice stone. Other than volcanoes, where is a good place to pick one up?

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                      @955_36
                      Grocery stores often have them with the cleaning supplies. I saw them at Safeway recently.

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                      • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

                        Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
                        My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
                        I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
                        I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
                        I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
                        I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
                        The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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                        @NorcalGma2 my friend,I did the same job for many years raising my kids. They were embarrassed, I never was. Women such as we are can build just about anything as long as we have a butter knife and an idea!

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                        • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

                          Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
                          My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
                          I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
                          I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
                          I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
                          I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
                          The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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                          @NorcalGma2
                          The helplessness feeling is hard on people when they have to depend upon others. I know my late wife mentioned how guilty she felt at having to step back and let me take over house chores. I told her I didn't mind at all, but she still felt bad about it.

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                          • lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL lizette603_23@mastodon.social

                            @NorcalGma2 my friend,I did the same job for many years raising my kids. They were embarrassed, I never was. Women such as we are can build just about anything as long as we have a butter knife and an idea!

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                            @Lizette603_23
                            At that point my kids were pretty young and didn't understand enough to be embarrassed. By the time my daughter was old enough for braces she was all in helping any way she could.

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                            • stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza

                              @NorcalGma2
                              The helplessness feeling is hard on people when they have to depend upon others. I know my late wife mentioned how guilty she felt at having to step back and let me take over house chores. I told her I didn't mind at all, but she still felt bad about it.

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                              @stargazersmith @NorcalGma2
                              I second this. After a hospital stay some years ago, the feeling of not contributing as I recovered was tough. At first, just feeding the cats felt like I was contributing again. I'm not sure, but I'd guess by letting Summer and your husband help check something off the list, everyone felt better.

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                              • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

                                @Lizette603_23
                                At that point my kids were pretty young and didn't understand enough to be embarrassed. By the time my daughter was old enough for braces she was all in helping any way she could.

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                                @NorcalGma2 good for her

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                                • donaldham@mstdn.socialD donaldham@mstdn.social

                                  @stargazersmith @NorcalGma2
                                  I second this. After a hospital stay some years ago, the feeling of not contributing as I recovered was tough. At first, just feeding the cats felt like I was contributing again. I'm not sure, but I'd guess by letting Summer and your husband help check something off the list, everyone felt better.

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                                  @donaldham @stargazersmith
                                  It really did make a difference. Now they can look out the window and admire their fine work.

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                                  • norcalgma2@sfba.socialN norcalgma2@sfba.social

                                    Today was make all three of our toilets look like new again day.
                                    My husband, who feels bad that I have to do so much of our housework, wishes things were different.
                                    I told him that even if we had oodles of money I would still clean up behind us.
                                    I said that as a single parent these kinds of skills were marketable. I could sew, cook and clean well. All tasks that families who can afford to hire out, will.
                                    I wasn't always treated with respect even by his cousins who made me use the back door bathroom and gave me a bar of soap that was pressed together from the pieces of used bars.
                                    I managed to feed my family in part because I can make a toilet look like new with some bartenders friend, gloves, brush and a pumice stone. I had no shame for doing this kind of work. It even paid for my daughter's braces.
                                    The shame belongs to the people that treat domestic workers badly including his cousins.

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                                    @NorcalGma2 I make sure to treat cleaners and janitors with respect. After all, we are working in the same place, for the same people. (And I will try the pumice stone, thank you.)

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                                    • lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL lizette603_23@mastodon.social

                                      @NorcalGma2 my friend,I did the same job for many years raising my kids. They were embarrassed, I never was. Women such as we are can build just about anything as long as we have a butter knife and an idea!

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                                      @Lizette603_23 @NorcalGma2
                                      Honest work is good work.

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                                      • stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza

                                        @Lizette603_23 @NorcalGma2
                                        Honest work is good work.

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                                        @stargazersmith @Lizette603_23
                                        I agree.

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                                        • stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza

                                          @Lizette603_23 @NorcalGma2
                                          Honest work is good work.

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                                          @stargazersmith @NorcalGma2 I stopped comparing my output in the world with others as soon as I understood every one of us is precious... in the most basic meaning. From outlook to output. Everyone matters.

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