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"The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints."

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  • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

    @karl @1password

    Yes- CATCHES.

    also? Creates. Spawns, even

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    @TeflonTrout @1password AI is a tool. Ignore it at your peril.

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    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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      @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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      • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

        "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

        At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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        @1password I bought my first 1Password License in 2009. Upgraded up until 1Password 6. The cloud-forcing and this sloppification are just the nails in the coffin of what once was the objectively best solution.

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        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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          @1password oh so maybe this is why 1Password has been so unstable for multiple colleagues recently...

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          • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

            "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

            At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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            @1password Oh fuck. Not you too!

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            • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

              "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

              At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

              johnlehet@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @1password Why I jumped ship. It wasn’t the price hike.

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              • ne555@mastodon.socialN ne555@mastodon.social

                @1password Pfuh… lucky me that I recently switched to @protonprivacy Pass. However, this now forces me to also cancel my subscription for my family. Yayy now I can move all my family members to something else, that means many hours of explaining and work. 😞

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                @NE555 @1password @protonprivacy I'm sure the proton devs use LLMs as well for development, so I would question if that makes a difference

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                • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                  "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                  At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                  @1password
                  Please don’t. Password management is one place I want as little stochastic parroting as possible. At the very least, stop fucking BRAGGING about how you’re using the plagiarism engine to make your tool less secure. Yours is just about the only tool I still trust even a little.

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                  • ilias@discuss.systemsI ilias@discuss.systems

                    @TeflonTrout @1password

                    And no, it's not magic, it's not 'intelligent', it's a predictive algorithm, trained with data built by actual creative and smart human beings.

                    Just another tool.

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                    @ilias @1password

                    gfl with that

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                    • karl@social.ostendorf.comK karl@social.ostendorf.com

                      @TeflonTrout @1password AI is a tool. Ignore it at your peril.

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                      @karl @1password

                      pfff

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                      • ret@furry.engineerR ret@furry.engineer

                        @1password

                        If that is the kind of problem you enjoy working on, we are hiring.

                        abattoir with a sign outside saying "hiring professional farm animals".

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                        @ret @1password
                        I know fedi well enough to know that'd get a looooot more interest !!!!

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                        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                          @1password Well, thanks for feeding my blocklist with sloppy techbros I guess. 🤷‍♀️

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                          • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                            @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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                            @philnash @1password

                            They seem to require cookies in order to show their blog post, so it's not surprising that some folks didn't read the blog.

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                            • randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR randomoxen@hachyderm.io

                              @philnash @1password

                              They seem to require cookies in order to show their blog post, so it's not surprising that some folks didn't read the blog.

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                              @RandomOxen @1password those people probably didn’t need to comment then 🤷‍♂️

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                              • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                                @RandomOxen @1password those people probably didn’t need to comment then 🤷‍♂️

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                                @philnash @1password

                                People rarely need to comment, but we do anyway.

                                It's not surprising that a 1Password customer -- who read the toot and then was blocked from reading the details -- would react negatively.

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                                • randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR randomoxen@hachyderm.io

                                  @philnash @1password

                                  People rarely need to comment, but we do anyway.

                                  It's not surprising that a 1Password customer -- who read the toot and then was blocked from reading the details -- would react negatively.

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                                  @RandomOxen @1password people are welcome to jump to conclusions. Doesn’t make them right 🤷‍♂️

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                                  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                    @1password I cancelled my 1Password sub when you guys jumped on the crypto bandwagon a few years ago. Not doing a very good job at convincing me to come back.

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                                    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                      @1password Ah. I see. Well you are definitely not a consideration for moving password managers. Go fuck yourselves.

                                      #NoAI #AntiAI

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                                      • cararemixed@mastodon.socialC cararemixed@mastodon.social

                                        @1password Bye. Dropping this service immediately. Good job giving me a reason to move my family plan away. Time to check on ChiPass progress.

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                                        @cararemixed @1password slowly but steadily we're progressing towards the first release 🙂

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                                        • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                                          @RandomOxen @1password people are welcome to jump to conclusions. Doesn’t make them right 🤷‍♂️

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                                          @philnash @1password

                                          I think you might be thinking naívely here. Or I might be. It's hard to say.

                                          When information is being withheld, people -- rightly -- use their knowledge and experience to fill in the gaps.

                                          They shouldn't be expected to be silent, even if they fill those gaps incorrectly.

                                          People don't operate like that.

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