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"The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints."

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  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

    ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
    ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #47

    @1password yeah I think it's time to move on from this product. Will be looking at alternatives.

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    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

      ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #48

      @1password

      If that is the kind of problem you enjoy working on, we are hiring.

      abattoir with a sign outside saying "hiring professional farm animals".

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      • krono@toot.berlinK This user is from outside of this forum
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        krono@toot.berlin
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        #49

        @abstractcode @1password https://codeberg.org/ChiPass

        For a shared option, I have no idea yet…

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        • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

          @karl @1password

          Yes- CATCHES.

          also? Creates. Spawns, even

          karl@social.ostendorf.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @TeflonTrout @1password AI is a tool. Ignore it at your peril.

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          • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

            "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

            At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

            philnash@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
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            @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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            • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

              "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

              At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

              krono@toot.berlinK This user is from outside of this forum
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              krono@toot.berlin
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              #52

              @1password I bought my first 1Password License in 2009. Upgraded up until 1Password 6. The cloud-forcing and this sloppification are just the nails in the coffin of what once was the objectively best solution.

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              • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                edward@social.spheron.oneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @1password oh so maybe this is why 1Password has been so unstable for multiple colleagues recently...

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                • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                  "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                  At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                  ellouis@piaille.frE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  ellouis@piaille.fr
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                  @1password Oh fuck. Not you too!

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                  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                    johnlehet@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @1password Why I jumped ship. It wasn’t the price hike.

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                    • ne555@mastodon.socialN ne555@mastodon.social

                      @1password Pfuh… lucky me that I recently switched to @protonprivacy Pass. However, this now forces me to also cancel my subscription for my family. Yayy now I can move all my family members to something else, that means many hours of explaining and work. 😞

                      klausi@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @NE555 @1password @protonprivacy I'm sure the proton devs use LLMs as well for development, so I would question if that makes a difference

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                      • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                        "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                        At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                        #57

                        @1password
                        Please don’t. Password management is one place I want as little stochastic parroting as possible. At the very least, stop fucking BRAGGING about how you’re using the plagiarism engine to make your tool less secure. Yours is just about the only tool I still trust even a little.

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                        • ilias@discuss.systemsI ilias@discuss.systems

                          @TeflonTrout @1password

                          And no, it's not magic, it's not 'intelligent', it's a predictive algorithm, trained with data built by actual creative and smart human beings.

                          Just another tool.

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                          @ilias @1password

                          gfl with that

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                          • karl@social.ostendorf.comK karl@social.ostendorf.com

                            @TeflonTrout @1password AI is a tool. Ignore it at your peril.

                            teflontrout@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @karl @1password

                            pfff

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                            • ret@furry.engineerR ret@furry.engineer

                              @1password

                              If that is the kind of problem you enjoy working on, we are hiring.

                              abattoir with a sign outside saying "hiring professional farm animals".

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                              gimmechocolate@bark.lgbt
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                              @ret @1password
                              I know fedi well enough to know that'd get a looooot more interest !!!!

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                              • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                                thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                thejessiekirk@ohai.social
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                                @1password Well, thanks for feeding my blocklist with sloppy techbros I guess. 🤷‍♀️

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                                • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                                  @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

                                  randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @philnash @1password

                                  They seem to require cookies in order to show their blog post, so it's not surprising that some folks didn't read the blog.

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                                  • randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR randomoxen@hachyderm.io

                                    @philnash @1password

                                    They seem to require cookies in order to show their blog post, so it's not surprising that some folks didn't read the blog.

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                                    @RandomOxen @1password those people probably didn’t need to comment then 🤷‍♂️

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                                    • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                                      @RandomOxen @1password those people probably didn’t need to comment then 🤷‍♂️

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                                      #64

                                      @philnash @1password

                                      People rarely need to comment, but we do anyway.

                                      It's not surprising that a 1Password customer -- who read the toot and then was blocked from reading the details -- would react negatively.

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                                      • randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR randomoxen@hachyderm.io

                                        @philnash @1password

                                        People rarely need to comment, but we do anyway.

                                        It's not surprising that a 1Password customer -- who read the toot and then was blocked from reading the details -- would react negatively.

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                                        @RandomOxen @1password people are welcome to jump to conclusions. Doesn’t make them right 🤷‍♂️

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                                        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                          piepants@famichiki.jp
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                                          #66

                                          @1password I cancelled my 1Password sub when you guys jumped on the crypto bandwagon a few years ago. Not doing a very good job at convincing me to come back.

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