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"The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints."

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  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

    sinvega@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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    sinvega@mas.to
    wrote last edited by
    #44

    @1password remember when nerds spent 40 years telling everyone how intelligent they were, and then they were put in charge of everything, and it turns out they're the most gullible dipshits who ever lived

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    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

      wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      wtl@mastodon.social
      wrote last edited by
      #45

      @1password I've used 1Password since V2, advocated for it online & at MUGs, and I find this extremely concerning.

      I get it. The VCs want more money; there's the AI hype machine that seemingly makes money fall from the sky.

      Come on. 1Password has been the rock to which your users have placed trust in.

      Everyone knows AI makes bad code. Programmers under pressure from management have to work faster *will* miss things. This is a fast path to a serious security breech (and of user trust).

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      • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

        "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

        At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

        cararemixed@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        cararemixed@mastodon.social
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        #46

        @1password Bye. Dropping this service immediately. Good job giving me a reason to move my family plan away. Time to check on ChiPass progress.

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        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

          ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
          ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
          ret@furry.engineer
          wrote last edited by
          #47

          @1password yeah I think it's time to move on from this product. Will be looking at alternatives.

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          • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

            "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

            At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

            ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
            ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
            ret@furry.engineer
            wrote last edited by
            #48

            @1password

            If that is the kind of problem you enjoy working on, we are hiring.

            abattoir with a sign outside saying "hiring professional farm animals".

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            • krono@toot.berlinK This user is from outside of this forum
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              krono@toot.berlin
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              #49

              @abstractcode @1password https://codeberg.org/ChiPass

              For a shared option, I have no idea yet…

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              • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

                @karl @1password

                Yes- CATCHES.

                also? Creates. Spawns, even

                karl@social.ostendorf.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #50

                @TeflonTrout @1password AI is a tool. Ignore it at your peril.

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                • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                  "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                  At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                  philnash@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  philnash@mastodon.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #51

                  @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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                  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                    krono@toot.berlinK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #52

                    @1password I bought my first 1Password License in 2009. Upgraded up until 1Password 6. The cloud-forcing and this sloppification are just the nails in the coffin of what once was the objectively best solution.

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                    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                      edward@social.spheron.oneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #53

                      @1password oh so maybe this is why 1Password has been so unstable for multiple colleagues recently...

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                      • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                        "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                        At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                        ellouis@piaille.frE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        ellouis@piaille.fr
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                        #54

                        @1password Oh fuck. Not you too!

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                        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                          johnlehet@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #55

                          @1password Why I jumped ship. It wasn’t the price hike.

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                          • ne555@mastodon.socialN ne555@mastodon.social

                            @1password Pfuh… lucky me that I recently switched to @protonprivacy Pass. However, this now forces me to also cancel my subscription for my family. Yayy now I can move all my family members to something else, that means many hours of explaining and work. 😞

                            klausi@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @NE555 @1password @protonprivacy I'm sure the proton devs use LLMs as well for development, so I would question if that makes a difference

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                            • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                              "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                              At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                              threesigma@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              threesigma@mastodon.online
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                              #57

                              @1password
                              Please don’t. Password management is one place I want as little stochastic parroting as possible. At the very least, stop fucking BRAGGING about how you’re using the plagiarism engine to make your tool less secure. Yours is just about the only tool I still trust even a little.

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                              • ilias@discuss.systemsI ilias@discuss.systems

                                @TeflonTrout @1password

                                And no, it's not magic, it's not 'intelligent', it's a predictive algorithm, trained with data built by actual creative and smart human beings.

                                Just another tool.

                                teflontrout@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #58

                                @ilias @1password

                                gfl with that

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                                • karl@social.ostendorf.comK karl@social.ostendorf.com

                                  @TeflonTrout @1password AI is a tool. Ignore it at your peril.

                                  teflontrout@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #59

                                  @karl @1password

                                  pfff

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                                  • ret@furry.engineerR ret@furry.engineer

                                    @1password

                                    If that is the kind of problem you enjoy working on, we are hiring.

                                    abattoir with a sign outside saying "hiring professional farm animals".

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                                    @ret @1password
                                    I know fedi well enough to know that'd get a looooot more interest !!!!

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                                    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                                      thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      thejessiekirk@ohai.social
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                                      #61

                                      @1password Well, thanks for feeding my blocklist with sloppy techbros I guess. 🤷‍♀️

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                                      • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                                        @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

                                        randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        randomoxen@hachyderm.io
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                                        #62

                                        @philnash @1password

                                        They seem to require cookies in order to show their blog post, so it's not surprising that some folks didn't read the blog.

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                                        • randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR randomoxen@hachyderm.io

                                          @philnash @1password

                                          They seem to require cookies in order to show their blog post, so it's not surprising that some folks didn't read the blog.

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                                          philnash@mastodon.social
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                                          #63

                                          @RandomOxen @1password those people probably didn’t need to comment then 🤷‍♂️

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