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The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

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  • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

    @GhostOnTheHalfShell
    It takes decades to build trust and it is being thrown away in weeks or even days.

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    @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

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    • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

      @GhostOnTheHalfShell

      King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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      @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell croesus neither had nukes, nor dementia

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      • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

        @GhostOnTheHalfShell

        King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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        @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell obvious parallels aside, that is classic oracle bs - be vague, play both sides and then claim vindication after. if this wasnt a post hoc addition to the story - greek histories are seldom completely true

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        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

          The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

          Just not the way he means.

          The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

          This is going to rewrite global relations.

          For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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          @GhostOnTheHalfShell The Age of America is truly over. It will take some time for us to disentangle ourselves, but no matter who is elected after Trump (if/when that happens...), it won't be enough to fix the damage already done.

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          • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

            The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

            Just not the way he means.

            The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

            This is going to rewrite global relations.

            For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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            @GhostOnTheHalfShell I thought the whole point of the Second Amendment was this situation?

            Y’all are armed to the teeth. Go fix it.

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            • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

              @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

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              @pthane
              For me in Europe it feels like our friend across the pond became a psychiatric patient in an acute psychic crisis. We are all trying to figure out what the next step should be.
              @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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              • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                @pthane
                For me in Europe it feels like our friend across the pond became a psychiatric patient in an acute psychic crisis. We are all trying to figure out what the next step should be.
                @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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                @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell Disengage as much as possible as quickly as possible. Both personally, refusing to buy from US companies or use US services, and politically by urging our governments to move away from reliance on US defence hardware, to close US military bases on our territory, to stop awarding massive IT contracts to US corporations. It won't be quick or easy but we should make a start and make it clear where we are heading.

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                • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                  @SharonCrockett

                  If I were a betting person?

                  I would pencil in Zohran Mamdani

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                  @SharonCrockett @GhostOnTheHalfShell James Talarico is my favourite. Texan who is looking to turn Texas. People love him he’s so real. A man of the people. Highly principled. Very intelligent. He will be President some day if the establishment don’t take him out, I fear for him.

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                  • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                    @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

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                    @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                    Doesn't matter what the constitution says if nobody enforces it. The USA will be a terror state until their corrupted justice system and all the nazi cops are eliminated from the system.

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                    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                      The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                      Just not the way he means.

                      The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                      This is going to rewrite global relations.

                      For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell If he truly were a Russian asset, what would he do differently?

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                      • nmba@mstdn.caN nmba@mstdn.ca

                        @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                        Doesn't matter what the constitution says if nobody enforces it. The USA will be a terror state until their corrupted justice system and all the nazi cops are eliminated from the system.

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                        @NMBA @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                        Historically, eliminating the fascists after they had gotten into power was quite a bloody mess. Literally.

                        Just saying.

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                        • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                          @NMBA @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                          Historically, eliminating the fascists after they had gotten into power was quite a bloody mess. Literally.

                          Just saying.

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                          @avuko @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                          Yes, Mussolini and the French Aristocracy can attest to that.

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