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  • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

    The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

    Just not the way he means.

    The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

    This is going to rewrite global relations.

    For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

    johnzajac@dice.campJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @GhostOnTheHalfShell

    It'll happen much more quickly than you think. There's no FDR to play interference for them this time.

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    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

      The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

      Just not the way he means.

      The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

      This is going to rewrite global relations.

      For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

      alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
      alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
      alterelefant@mastodontech.de
      wrote last edited by
      #18

      @GhostOnTheHalfShell
      It takes decades to build trust and it is being thrown away in weeks or even days.

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      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

        The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

        Just not the way he means.

        The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

        This is going to rewrite global relations.

        For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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        j_peregrine@mastodon.social
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        #19

        @GhostOnTheHalfShell
        Of which I have absolutely no interest in rebuilding. Sick of politics and hypocrisy everywhere. Will miss this beautiful country but don't think I can stay here anymore. I would be proud to contribute to Canada.

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        • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett What about AOC?

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          #20

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett
          AOC needs to stay where she is. I want Pete. But,yeah problem-he seems to have disappeared.

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          • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

            @GhostOnTheHalfShell
            It takes decades to build trust and it is being thrown away in weeks or even days.

            pthane@toot.walesP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

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            • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

              @GhostOnTheHalfShell

              King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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              @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell croesus neither had nukes, nor dementia

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              • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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                #23

                @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell obvious parallels aside, that is classic oracle bs - be vague, play both sides and then claim vindication after. if this wasnt a post hoc addition to the story - greek histories are seldom completely true

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                • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                  The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                  Just not the way he means.

                  The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                  This is going to rewrite global relations.

                  For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

                  heinragas@mublog.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24

                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell The Age of America is truly over. It will take some time for us to disentangle ourselves, but no matter who is elected after Trump (if/when that happens...), it won't be enough to fix the damage already done.

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                  • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                    The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                    Just not the way he means.

                    The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                    This is going to rewrite global relations.

                    For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

                    gentlemantech@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell I thought the whole point of the Second Amendment was this situation?

                    Y’all are armed to the teeth. Go fix it.

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                    • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                      @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

                      alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @pthane
                      For me in Europe it feels like our friend across the pond became a psychiatric patient in an acute psychic crisis. We are all trying to figure out what the next step should be.
                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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                      • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                        @pthane
                        For me in Europe it feels like our friend across the pond became a psychiatric patient in an acute psychic crisis. We are all trying to figure out what the next step should be.
                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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                        #27

                        @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell Disengage as much as possible as quickly as possible. Both personally, refusing to buy from US companies or use US services, and politically by urging our governments to move away from reliance on US defence hardware, to close US military bases on our territory, to stop awarding massive IT contracts to US corporations. It won't be quick or easy but we should make a start and make it clear where we are heading.

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                        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                          @SharonCrockett

                          If I were a betting person?

                          I would pencil in Zohran Mamdani

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                          @SharonCrockett @GhostOnTheHalfShell James Talarico is my favourite. Texan who is looking to turn Texas. People love him he’s so real. A man of the people. Highly principled. Very intelligent. He will be President some day if the establishment don’t take him out, I fear for him.

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                          • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                            @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

                            nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #29

                            @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                            Doesn't matter what the constitution says if nobody enforces it. The USA will be a terror state until their corrupted justice system and all the nazi cops are eliminated from the system.

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                            • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                              The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                              Just not the way he means.

                              The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                              This is going to rewrite global relations.

                              For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

                              mikef@mstdn.plusM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #30

                              @GhostOnTheHalfShell If he truly were a Russian asset, what would he do differently?

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                              • nmba@mstdn.caN nmba@mstdn.ca

                                @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                                Doesn't matter what the constitution says if nobody enforces it. The USA will be a terror state until their corrupted justice system and all the nazi cops are eliminated from the system.

                                avuko@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #31

                                @NMBA @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                Historically, eliminating the fascists after they had gotten into power was quite a bloody mess. Literally.

                                Just saying.

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                                • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                                  @NMBA @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                  Historically, eliminating the fascists after they had gotten into power was quite a bloody mess. Literally.

                                  Just saying.

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                                  @avuko @pthane @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                                  Yes, Mussolini and the French Aristocracy can attest to that.

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