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The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

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  • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

    @GhostOnTheHalfShell

    King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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    @SeanPLynch seems appropriate for now

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    • sharoncrockett@toot.communityS sharoncrockett@toot.community

      @GhostOnTheHalfShell Who will be our generation’s Abe Lincoln???

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      @SharonCrockett

      If I were a betting person?

      I would pencil in Zohran Mamdani

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      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

        @SharonCrockett

        If I were a betting person?

        I would pencil in Zohran Mamdani

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        @GhostOnTheHalfShell Good bet!

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        • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell

          King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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          @SeanPLynch
          "In most versions of the story, Cyrus kept Croesus as his advisor".

          I don't foresee that being Tump's end days.

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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          • novanaturalist@cosocial.caN novanaturalist@cosocial.ca

            @SeanPLynch
            "In most versions of the story, Cyrus kept Croesus as his advisor".

            I don't foresee that being Tump's end days.

            @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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            @NovaNaturalist @GhostOnTheHalfShell

            Weren't Cyrus and Croesus related (through a brother in law)?

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            • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

              @NovaNaturalist @GhostOnTheHalfShell

              Weren't Cyrus and Croesus related (through a brother in law)?

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              @SeanPLynch @NovaNaturalist

              Prolly I don’t know history that well

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              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                @SharonCrockett

                If I were a betting person?

                I would pencil in Zohran Mamdani

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                @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett What about AOC?

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                • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett What about AOC?

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                  @AncTreat5358 @SharonCrockett

                  She’d be fine. I just like Manda me right now because he’s so I don’t wanna say in your face, but he’s keeps on putting out the short videos of the mayor doing this in the mayor doing that which is a good PR at the very least but he’s doing all those horrifying communist things like fixing potholes and making life more affordable.

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                  • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                    @AncTreat5358 @SharonCrockett

                    She’d be fine. I just like Manda me right now because he’s so I don’t wanna say in your face, but he’s keeps on putting out the short videos of the mayor doing this in the mayor doing that which is a good PR at the very least but he’s doing all those horrifying communist things like fixing potholes and making life more affordable.

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                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett Oh, I don't disagree, on the contrary, it seems like he'd be a great fit. AOC seems to have similar energies in my mind, which is why I brought her up.

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                    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                      The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                      Just not the way he means.

                      The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                      This is going to rewrite global relations.

                      For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                      It'll happen much more quickly than you think. There's no FDR to play interference for them this time.

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                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                        The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                        Just not the way he means.

                        The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                        This is going to rewrite global relations.

                        For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                        It takes decades to build trust and it is being thrown away in weeks or even days.

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                        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                          The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                          Just not the way he means.

                          The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                          This is going to rewrite global relations.

                          For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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                          j_peregrine@mastodon.social
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                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                          Of which I have absolutely no interest in rebuilding. Sick of politics and hypocrisy everywhere. Will miss this beautiful country but don't think I can stay here anymore. I would be proud to contribute to Canada.

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                          • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett What about AOC?

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                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SharonCrockett
                            AOC needs to stay where she is. I want Pete. But,yeah problem-he seems to have disappeared.

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                            • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                              @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                              It takes decades to build trust and it is being thrown away in weeks or even days.

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                              @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

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                              • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                                @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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                                @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell croesus neither had nukes, nor dementia

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                                • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                  King Croesus was told by the Delphic Oracle that if he invaded Persia, he would destroy a great empire. Croesus attacked the Persians, but was instead defeated and captured. The great empire destroyed was his own.

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                                  @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell obvious parallels aside, that is classic oracle bs - be vague, play both sides and then claim vindication after. if this wasnt a post hoc addition to the story - greek histories are seldom completely true

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                                  • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                    The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                                    Just not the way he means.

                                    The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                                    This is going to rewrite global relations.

                                    For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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                                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell The Age of America is truly over. It will take some time for us to disentangle ourselves, but no matter who is elected after Trump (if/when that happens...), it won't be enough to fix the damage already done.

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                                    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                      The terrible irony of Donald Trump saying that a civilization will end, is that he’s absolutely correct

                                      Just not the way he means.

                                      The change is what looks to be the final nail in the coffin with respect to our nation’s civilization.

                                      This is going to rewrite global relations.

                                      For those of us in the US, the task of rebuilding something completely different while freeing ourselves from billionaire extinction cult despotism will be the work of generations

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                                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell I thought the whole point of the Second Amendment was this situation?

                                      Y’all are armed to the teeth. Go fix it.

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                                      • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                                        @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell I won't trust America until you fix the system that elected Trump, twice. Now it's clear that your 'checks and balances' and your 'well regulated militia' are unable to stop a lunatic president ruling by executive order and social media post, how are you going to stop the next one? It'll take some serious constitutional amending before anyone takes your government seriously again.

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                                        @pthane
                                        For me in Europe it feels like our friend across the pond became a psychiatric patient in an acute psychic crisis. We are all trying to figure out what the next step should be.
                                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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                                        • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                                          @pthane
                                          For me in Europe it feels like our friend across the pond became a psychiatric patient in an acute psychic crisis. We are all trying to figure out what the next step should be.
                                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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                                          @alterelefant @GhostOnTheHalfShell Disengage as much as possible as quickly as possible. Both personally, refusing to buy from US companies or use US services, and politically by urging our governments to move away from reliance on US defence hardware, to close US military bases on our territory, to stop awarding massive IT contracts to US corporations. It won't be quick or easy but we should make a start and make it clear where we are heading.

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