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ntfy.sh v2.18.0 was written by AI

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  • O osanna@lemmy.vg

    Ntfy.sh is the hosted version. Hosted by the author. Ntfy (android, ios) is the app that you use as a client.

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    lumisal@lemmy.world
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    I've never used ntfy.sh

    I've only used Ntfy app for Universal Push that some apps need, and they recommend ntfy. Does this affect the app then? Ah, if so, what alternative can I use for just that purpose?

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    • november@piefed.blahaj.zoneN november@piefed.blahaj.zone

      Ugh, seriously? Great...

      (Edit) I don't think this is true? They use Mozilla's push services, but nothing about their Codeberg repo (yes, it's on Codeberg, not Github) indicates they're part of Mozilla.

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      kilgore_trout@feddit.it
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      #91

      Read the README

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      • L lumisal@lemmy.world

        I've never used ntfy.sh

        I've only used Ntfy app for Universal Push that some apps need, and they recommend ntfy. Does this affect the app then? Ah, if so, what alternative can I use for just that purpose?

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        osanna@lemmy.vg
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        #92

        Gotify is probably the next best thing, at least in terms of self hosted. Though doesn’t have the wide support of ntfy.

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        • M moonshadow@slrpnk.net

          Oh goddamn it, I'm using this and don't have an alternative lined up

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          kilgore_trout@feddit.it
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          #93

          If using ntfy for UnifiedPush: https://unifiedpush.org/users/distributors/

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          • exu@feditown.comE exu@feditown.com

            Do you know any? I've never really looked beyond ntfy.sh until now

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            kilgore_trout@feddit.it
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            #94

            If you use ntfy for UnifiedPush: https://unifiedpush.org/users/distributors/

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            • O osanna@lemmy.vg

              Sigh. Time to switch to gotify

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              greenknight23@lemmy.world
              wrote last edited by
              #95

              been using EMQX plus an MQTT client on my phone for a few months now, I like it better than gotify since the app was chewing through my battery like a vampire.

              it might be better now since my issues happened three-ish years ago.

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              • U ueiqkkwhuwjw@lemmy.world

                According to the release:

                Adds experimental PostgreSQL support

                The code was written by Cursor and Claude

                14,997 added lines of code, and 10,202 lines removed

                reviewed and heavily tested over 2-3 weeks

                This makes me uneasy, especially as ntfy is an internet facing service. I am now looking for alternatives.

                Am I overreacting or do you all share the same concern?

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                usernamenotfound404@sh.itjust.works
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                #96

                Lot of hate for a project maintained by a volunteer and offered for free here. Nobody forces this free stuff on you.

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                • xylight@lemdro.idX xylight@lemdro.id

                  the linux kernel is on that list, bro it's time to switch!

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                  napkin2020@sh.itjust.works
                  wrote last edited by
                  #97

                  Also Chrome, Firefox ans Ladybird!

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                  • tcb13@lemmy.worldT tcb13@lemmy.world

                    Well, Telegram does the something for free.

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                    moonshadow@slrpnk.net
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                    #98

                    Telegram does the thing for your sweet juicy data

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                    • november@piefed.blahaj.zoneN november@piefed.blahaj.zone

                      Ugh, seriously? Great...

                      (Edit) I don't think this is true? They use Mozilla's push services, but nothing about their Codeberg repo (yes, it's on Codeberg, not Github) indicates they're part of Mozilla.

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                      povoq@slrpnk.net
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                      #99

                      The app itself might be fine, but you are either using the Mozilla services or the backend written by Mozilla. Sadly Mozilla has lost all the good will it had and is just another silicon valley AI company these days, and seems to prefer it that way.

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                      • U ueiqkkwhuwjw@lemmy.world

                        According to the release:

                        Adds experimental PostgreSQL support

                        The code was written by Cursor and Claude

                        14,997 added lines of code, and 10,202 lines removed

                        reviewed and heavily tested over 2-3 weeks

                        This makes me uneasy, especially as ntfy is an internet facing service. I am now looking for alternatives.

                        Am I overreacting or do you all share the same concern?

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                        powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de
                        wrote last edited by
                        #100

                        ts getting you pinned to 2.17 in the compose file 🥹🤞🥀

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                        • C cecilkorik@piefed.ca

                          I think there's room for a little bit of nuance that page doesn't do a great job of describing. In my opinion there's a huge difference between volunteer maintainers using AI PR checks as a screening measure to ease their review burden and focusing their actual reviews on PRs that pass the AI checks, and AI-deranged lone developers flooding the code with "AI features" and slopping out 10kloc PRs for no obvious reason.

                          Just because a project is using AI code reviews or has an AGENTS.md is not necessarily a red flag. A yellow flag, maybe, but the evidence that the Linux Kernel itself is on that list should serve as an example of why you can't just kneejerk anti-AI here. If you know anything about Linus Torvalds you know he has zero tolerance for bad code, and the use of AI is not going to change that despite everyone's fears. If it doesn't work out, Linus will be the first one to throw it under the bus.

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                          baner@lemmy.zip
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                          Upvote this guy

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                          • P patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se

                            It looks like that tool is more or less built by a single developer (you already trust their judgment anyways!), and even though the code came through in a single PR it was a merge from a branch that had 79 separate commits: https://github.com/binwiederhier/ntfy/pull/1619

                            Also glancing through it a bit, huge portions of that are straightforward refactors or even just formatting changes caused by adding a new backend option.

                            I'm not going to say it's fine, but they didn't just throw Claude at a problem and let it rewrite 25k lines of code unnecessarily.

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                            mudkip@lemdro.id
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                            Any AI usage immediately discredits the software for me, because it calls into question all of their past and future work.

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                            • kilgore_trout@feddit.itK kilgore_trout@feddit.it

                              Read the README

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                              november@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                              How about you tell me what you see that I missed?

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                              • povoq@slrpnk.netP povoq@slrpnk.net

                                The app itself might be fine, but you are either using the Mozilla services or the backend written by Mozilla. Sadly Mozilla has lost all the good will it had and is just another silicon valley AI company these days, and seems to prefer it that way.

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                                november@piefed.blahaj.zone
                                wrote last edited by
                                #104

                                Sure. All I said was that it doesn't actually seem to be run by Mozilla, like you implied it was.

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                                • mudkip@lemdro.idM mudkip@lemdro.id

                                  Any AI usage immediately discredits the software for me, because it calls into question all of their past and future work.

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                                  blarg_dunsen@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Oh boy, do I have bad news about 90% of the internet for you...

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                                  • xylight@lemdro.idX xylight@lemdro.id

                                    the linux kernel is on that list, bro it's time to switch!

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                                    paequ2@lemmy.today
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                                    #106

                                    Time to switch to Plan9!

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                                    • C cecilkorik@piefed.ca

                                      I think there's room for a little bit of nuance that page doesn't do a great job of describing. In my opinion there's a huge difference between volunteer maintainers using AI PR checks as a screening measure to ease their review burden and focusing their actual reviews on PRs that pass the AI checks, and AI-deranged lone developers flooding the code with "AI features" and slopping out 10kloc PRs for no obvious reason.

                                      Just because a project is using AI code reviews or has an AGENTS.md is not necessarily a red flag. A yellow flag, maybe, but the evidence that the Linux Kernel itself is on that list should serve as an example of why you can't just kneejerk anti-AI here. If you know anything about Linus Torvalds you know he has zero tolerance for bad code, and the use of AI is not going to change that despite everyone's fears. If it doesn't work out, Linus will be the first one to throw it under the bus.

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                                      witten@lemmy.world
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                                      Lol my project has an AGENTS.md and its contents are basically, "Don't use AI agents on this codebase."

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                                      • B blarg_dunsen@sh.itjust.works

                                        Oh boy, do I have bad news about 90% of the internet for you...

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                                        mudkip@lemdro.id
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                                        #108

                                        Linus sent an email recently to the Kernel Mailing List trashing AI slop and rejecting AI generated patches. The fact that he used it to play around with a script doesn't invalidate the fact that he distrusts code written by LLMs when it actually matters.

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                                        • M mirrorgiraffe@piefed.social

                                          Classic "test in production" strategy, very solid!

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                                          callmemagnus@lemmy.world
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                                          #109

                                          Consider a donation to help people providing you the open source software you seem to depend upon.

                                          Usage of a helper tool to perform tasks on code whether it is AI or the IDE internal features can reduce the work load of benevolent developers who has not asked you to use their softwares.

                                          Maybe the language was not appropriate but get real. With the little revenue generated by the usage of people complaining, the use of AI agentic coding might be the only way to bring features without pushing benevolent devs to burnout.

                                          Edit: to bring, not to being!

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