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CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident.

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  • yuvalne@433.worldY This user is from outside of this forum
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    CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident. the answer is... a car accident.

    the energy equivalence of antimatter is huge — 10¹⁷J/kg, but the amount is tiny — 92 protons. it's so tiny that if i placed all 92 in your hand, the destruction and release of energy would feel less warm than mere sunlight, by a factor of at least a few thousands.

    i'd be more worried about the 2-ton magnetic containment machine in that truck.

    burnoutqueen@todon.nlB vosje62@mastodon.nlV cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC bebadefabo@mastodon.socialB brandonscript@appdot.netB 5 Replies Last reply
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    • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

      CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident. the answer is... a car accident.

      the energy equivalence of antimatter is huge — 10¹⁷J/kg, but the amount is tiny — 92 protons. it's so tiny that if i placed all 92 in your hand, the destruction and release of energy would feel less warm than mere sunlight, by a factor of at least a few thousands.

      i'd be more worried about the 2-ton magnetic containment machine in that truck.

      burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Yuvalne

      I would say it would be cool if we were to find out how to store massive amounts of antimatter, but then I would realize it would just be a bomb

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      • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

        @Yuvalne

        I would say it would be cool if we were to find out how to store massive amounts of antimatter, but then I would realize it would just be a bomb

        yuvalne@433.worldY This user is from outside of this forum
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        @burnoutqueen well yeah, but any energy store is a bomb depending on how fast the energy gets released. fuel tanks. batteries. radioactive materials. in some cases it's hard to reach bomb levels (i don't think you can turn most biological material into a bomb), but it's often easier than you think.

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        • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

          @burnoutqueen well yeah, but any energy store is a bomb depending on how fast the energy gets released. fuel tanks. batteries. radioactive materials. in some cases it's hard to reach bomb levels (i don't think you can turn most biological material into a bomb), but it's often easier than you think.

          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen methane-producing bacteria + enclosed space :3

          cinebox@masto.hackers.townC yuvalne@433.worldY dhfir@suya.placeD 3 Replies Last reply
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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen methane-producing bacteria + enclosed space :3

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            @whitequark @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen or an alcohol still

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            • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

              @whitequark @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen or an alcohol still

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              @cinebox @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen i was thinking of something entirely biological, i feel if you're allowed adding weirdly shaped metal it's not even challenging

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              • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

                @burnoutqueen well yeah, but any energy store is a bomb depending on how fast the energy gets released. fuel tanks. batteries. radioactive materials. in some cases it's hard to reach bomb levels (i don't think you can turn most biological material into a bomb), but it's often easier than you think.

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                @Yuvalne

                I could see a crazy like Trump bombing Spain with an antimatter bomb because Pedro Sanchez said something he didn't like

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                • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

                  @Yuvalne

                  I could see a crazy like Trump bombing Spain with an antimatter bomb because Pedro Sanchez said something he didn't like

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                  @Yuvalne antimatter is the most effective material for a weapon ever designed. It destroys matter on contact, forever

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                  • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

                    @Yuvalne

                    I would say it would be cool if we were to find out how to store massive amounts of antimatter, but then I would realize it would just be a bomb

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                    @burnoutqueen @Yuvalne this is in fact the point of BASE, but the tendency of antimatter to annihilate is a good reason to start small.

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                    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                      @burnoutqueen @Yuvalne this is in fact the point of BASE, but the tendency of antimatter to annihilate is a good reason to start small.

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                      @burnoutqueen @Yuvalne I have no idea what the plan is for "we'd like to drive our bomb on the highway" but probably about the same as any other time we put dramatic science stuff on the roads

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                      • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

                        CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident. the answer is... a car accident.

                        the energy equivalence of antimatter is huge — 10¹⁷J/kg, but the amount is tiny — 92 protons. it's so tiny that if i placed all 92 in your hand, the destruction and release of energy would feel less warm than mere sunlight, by a factor of at least a few thousands.

                        i'd be more worried about the 2-ton magnetic containment machine in that truck.

                        vosje62@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Yuvalne I hope they found all 92 back. They were not sure they all would survive. 😇

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                        • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

                          CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident. the answer is... a car accident.

                          the energy equivalence of antimatter is huge — 10¹⁷J/kg, but the amount is tiny — 92 protons. it's so tiny that if i placed all 92 in your hand, the destruction and release of energy would feel less warm than mere sunlight, by a factor of at least a few thousands.

                          i'd be more worried about the 2-ton magnetic containment machine in that truck.

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                          @Yuvalne I'd be more concerned with the vacuum you'd need to surround me with to get the antimatter on me 🤔

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                          • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

                            CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident. the answer is... a car accident.

                            the energy equivalence of antimatter is huge — 10¹⁷J/kg, but the amount is tiny — 92 protons. it's so tiny that if i placed all 92 in your hand, the destruction and release of energy would feel less warm than mere sunlight, by a factor of at least a few thousands.

                            i'd be more worried about the 2-ton magnetic containment machine in that truck.

                            bebadefabo@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Yuvalne are we not worried about a cascade of subatomic particles when the antimatter escapes? I'm less concerned about a big kaboom then I am fissures in quantum energy disrupting things in ways we don't yet understand.

                            Like, bikini atoll seemed like a good idea: at the time

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                            • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

                              CERN just managed to transport antimatter via truck, and people are asking what happens if it gets into an accident. the answer is... a car accident.

                              the energy equivalence of antimatter is huge — 10¹⁷J/kg, but the amount is tiny — 92 protons. it's so tiny that if i placed all 92 in your hand, the destruction and release of energy would feel less warm than mere sunlight, by a factor of at least a few thousands.

                              i'd be more worried about the 2-ton magnetic containment machine in that truck.

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                              @Yuvalne I would have been more excited to hear they transported it by starship

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                              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                @burnoutqueen @Yuvalne I have no idea what the plan is for "we'd like to drive our bomb on the highway" but probably about the same as any other time we put dramatic science stuff on the roads

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                                @SnoopJ because it's over here and we want it over there but it's too big for a missile?

                                @burnoutqueen @Yuvalne

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen methane-producing bacteria + enclosed space :3

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                                  @whitequark @burnoutqueen yeah i know it's true for some. i was thinking of something like wood. but maybe i'm just not creative enough.

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                                  • vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl

                                    @Yuvalne I hope they found all 92 back. They were not sure they all would survive. 😇

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                                    @vosje62 in the test drive all 92 did. now the real drive from Switzerland to Germany.

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                                    • bebadefabo@mastodon.socialB bebadefabo@mastodon.social

                                      @Yuvalne are we not worried about a cascade of subatomic particles when the antimatter escapes? I'm less concerned about a big kaboom then I am fissures in quantum energy disrupting things in ways we don't yet understand.

                                      Like, bikini atoll seemed like a good idea: at the time

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                                      @bebadefabo again, the amount is tiny. 10^-8 joules. even if there is a cascade, it's still much less than that of a single somewhat-powerful cosmic ray.

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                                        @crouton yes, my bad! the density is 10^17, but the mass of a proton is 10^-27 (which cancels out to 10^-10 joules per proton).

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                                          @CASSCFenjoyer @whitequark @burnoutqueen and like i suspected, i just wasn't creative enough.

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