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Hot take: looking for a single silver-bullet Discord replacement is solving the wrong problem.

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hot take: looking for a single silver-bullet Discord replacement is solving the wrong problem. Corporate power has pushed us towards everything-apps, but it's OK for the tool you use to communicate with other users of an open source project to look different from the tool you use to text your spouse and the tool you use to run voice chats with your gaming guilds.

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      Hot take: looking for a single silver-bullet Discord replacement is solving the wrong problem. Corporate power has pushed us towards everything-apps, but it's OK for the tool you use to communicate with other users of an open source project to look different from the tool you use to text your spouse and the tool you use to run voice chats with your gaming guilds.

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      That inevitably hits pressure from folks who are, rightly or wrongly, averse to having more applications and services in their world. If you set up a family Discord "server," that may not require them to create a new account.

      But I think there's ways to solve that without concentrating corporate power, and that those ways look more like federation than anything else. E.g. if your project forums run on Lemmy, folks can use their Lemmy accounts from other servers.

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        That inevitably hits pressure from folks who are, rightly or wrongly, averse to having more applications and services in their world. If you set up a family Discord "server," that may not require them to create a new account.

        But I think there's ways to solve that without concentrating corporate power, and that those ways look more like federation than anything else. E.g. if your project forums run on Lemmy, folks can use their Lemmy accounts from other servers.

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        Regardless, though, the everything-app concept is, I'll argue, an inherently corporate idea. We don't need to reproduce that in trying to de-Discordize our lives.

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          Hot take: looking for a single silver-bullet Discord replacement is solving the wrong problem. Corporate power has pushed us towards everything-apps, but it's OK for the tool you use to communicate with other users of an open source project to look different from the tool you use to text your spouse and the tool you use to run voice chats with your gaming guilds.

          reflex@retrogaming.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @xgranade I mean yeah, I agree but also I'm GenX and nearly digital native. It's a lot tougher for people who didn't grow up in this era to grasp and as a result ends up with a major accessibility problem.

          I wish apps followed some more universal design guidelines so we could more easily separate our spheres without leaving people out of increasingly critical infrastructure and comms.

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            That inevitably hits pressure from folks who are, rightly or wrongly, averse to having more applications and services in their world. If you set up a family Discord "server," that may not require them to create a new account.

            But I think there's ways to solve that without concentrating corporate power, and that those ways look more like federation than anything else. E.g. if your project forums run on Lemmy, folks can use their Lemmy accounts from other servers.

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            @xgranade Partner of mine just signed up for an XMPP server (I already used XMPP) - which, similarly works across servers, and can cover almost everything I needed from discord (+ allows end to end encryption)
            The hardest part of them signing up was waiting for the server admin to approve their account.

            So, there's options that aren't particularly difficult to use or set up, that also don't lock you and all your friends into a singular server/provider.
            ... some of the options ~ 30 years old.

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