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  • lydiaconwell@todon.nlL lydiaconwell@todon.nl

    @vowe Yes, but the aim of this story is to call for more online surveillance for all. It's saying exiting measures to protect children aren't working so strong ID checks are needed.

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    @lydiaconwell @vowe Almost like they expect kids to circumvent it instantly requiring ever more draconian verification intrusions into people's ability to roam online anonymously.

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    • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

      @driusan @vowe Entirely unprecedented, not like I didn't do it myself or anything.

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      @nini@oldbytes.space @vowe@social.heise.de Now I'm suddenly really hoping the fact that my kid's school "shadowbanned" MS Teams doesn't result in him trying to find illicit ways to continue to use Teams.
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      • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

        Life finds a way

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        #63

        @vowe Amusing headline aside, it's noteworthy that the report's evidence argues that VPNs are *not* being significantly used to circumvent age gates. Hopefully this will reduce some of the pressure to apply the same controls to VPNs.

        Data protection and privacy of information are mentioned... but not strongly enough. People don't realise privacy's gone until it's too late, I think.

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        • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

          Life finds a way

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          @vowe What would be funny is if kids would learn 'proper' makeup-to-look-older from tutorials on youtube and tiktok...

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          • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

            Life finds a way

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            @vowe you wouldn't download a moustache
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            • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

              @vowe I can't believe it's not TheOnion™!

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              @ticho @vowe

              We are living in the 'Age of The Onion' 🧅

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              • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                Life finds a way

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                @vowe People are looking at this the wrong way.

                Everyone understands that we are not banning the kids from socials in any real or effective way.

                What we are doing is banning social media from our kids. Here in Manitoba, AI bots too, which is even better news.

                Cause the thing is, they already know who is using the social site, they know everything, we've been obligingly helping them to setup the surveillance all along.

                This idea that requiring a credit card or some such to use adult-oriented sites is somehow the final step is absurd.

                But if they are found to have knowingly allowed kids to use the sites (and again, they absolutely do know who is at the keyboard, even if multiple people are using the same computer) and not kicked the kid off, that needs to make them legally liable, and if a kid ends up damaged in any way by it (ie. they are lured, for instance) the liability should be criminal.

                At the moment it's "let the kids go on the internet anywhere because free speech!"

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                • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                  Life finds a way

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                  @vowe I knew it, it was 3 kids in a trenchcoat!

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                  • driusan@doomscroller.socialD driusan@doomscroller.social
                    @nini@oldbytes.space @vowe@social.heise.de Now I'm suddenly really hoping the fact that my kid's school "shadowbanned" MS Teams doesn't result in him trying to find illicit ways to continue to use Teams.
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                    @driusan @vowe The stuff of nightmares.

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                    • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                      @driusan @vowe The stuff of nightmares.

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                      @nini@oldbytes.space @vowe@social.heise.de Maybe I shouldn't have kept suggesting they use Signal or something.
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                      • amici@fribygda.noA amici@fribygda.no

                        @vowe Absolute LOL

                        Sounds like a scene some silly 70s movie

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                        @amici@fribygda.no @vowe@social.heise.de

                        Internet access kit for children

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                        • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                          Life finds a way

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                          @vowe

                          Just watched a whole skit in my head of a kid drawing a mustache on to go online, then mistakenly getting caught in a swarm of biznessmen on their way out of a martini bar from lunch, and he ends-up working as a vp with them forever.
                          Forever.
                          For. Ever.

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                          • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                            Life finds a way

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                            @vowe If kids are able to unlock their parents phones with their faces, why wouldn't drawn on mustaches and wrinkles work for "general" age verification?

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                            • vowe@social.heise.deV vowe@social.heise.de

                              Life finds a way

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                              #74

                              @vowe source?

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                              • mynameistillian@plush.cityM mynameistillian@plush.city

                                @vowe this timeline is so unserious

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                                @mynameistillian @vowe It's very serious.

                                It's also stupid.

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                                • pedro_mateus@mas.toP pedro_mateus@mas.to

                                  @vowe

                                  Time to add age verification to the sale of sharpies!

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                                  @pedro_mateus @vowe Like they already do for big paint markers.

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                                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                    @pedro_mateus @vowe Like they already do for big paint markers.

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                                    #77

                                    @drwho @vowe

                                    Oh, the nice smelling ones?

                                    EDIT: Ah, the graffiti jumbo markers! Yeah, but you only need to be 16 to buy them.

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                                    • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @vowe I knew someone who had a beard at 15, never got asked for ID when buying alcohol.

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                                      @gkrnours @vowe A guy I knew in high school had such a beard (and unfortunately early onset hair loss) that he would occasionally wear a suit and tie and be mistaken for a substitute teacher. He was a great source of information.

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                                      • driusan@doomscroller.socialD driusan@doomscroller.social
                                        @vowe@social.heise.de This is probably the first time in history that young people have rapidly found a way to bypass measures put in place by adults to restrict what they can do and shared it amongst their peers.
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                                        @driusan @vowe I don't think so. Getting around restrictions put in place by adults has a long and storied history. Turning the high school VMB into a diverter for summer break. Messing with security cameras in hallways to create blind spots. Pages kept in filling cabinets going missing.

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                                        • taghunt@infosec.exchangeT taghunt@infosec.exchange

                                          @vowe imagine being a kid back in the day, vandalising posters with mustaches and when you turn to an adult you force children to do it to themselves
                                          Now that is an evil villain alright

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                                          @TagHunt @vowe a villain with an old style moustache, who also sells moustache wax (so stands to benefit from any rise in folk being inspired to have actual facial hair)

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