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  4. Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    Each time a new privacy-invasive
    feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

    If each time a new privacy-invasive
    feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

    Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

    It is an act of self-protection but,
    perhaps even more importantly,
    it is also an act of protest.

    A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

    The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

    If we do not refuse,
    if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
    we will lose them all.

    #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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    @Em0nM4stodon
    Years ago, when websites and corporations said, "We track you to give you personalized ads..." I was like "You lost me at the tracking part."

    Never considered using biometrics, facial scanning, retina scanning or anything of the like on any device.

    These things are not supposed to know me. They're supposed to do a thing when I'm using them and stop doing things until I need to use them again.

    All data will get exploited in the Information Age.

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    • ehay2k@mastodon.socialE ehay2k@mastodon.social

      @Em0nM4stodon

      💯!!!

      I recently tried to check in for an international flight online. It asked for a picture of my passport, with a disclaimer [paraphrasing] that my passport info would be sent to a third party for processing.

      That's a hard pass for me. I'd rather wait in line at the airport then have some third party I don't know about have access to my passport info

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      @Ehay2k dystopian fkin nightmare!!!!

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      • datterich@darmstadt.socialD datterich@darmstadt.social

        @Em0nM4stodon

        > "It is an act of self-protection but,
        perhaps even more importantly,
        it is also an act of protest."

        It is also our democratic duty to protect those who can't fight for themselves, who are in a minority and as such in an inferior position to defend themselves against attacks aiming at their human rights or personal privacy.

        It's a duty of the majority to protect minorities - because, in a democracy, majorities change...

        @catsalad

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        @Datterich

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        • ehay2k@mastodon.socialE ehay2k@mastodon.social

          @Em0nM4stodon

          💯!!!

          I recently tried to check in for an international flight online. It asked for a picture of my passport, with a disclaimer [paraphrasing] that my passport info would be sent to a third party for processing.

          That's a hard pass for me. I'd rather wait in line at the airport then have some third party I don't know about have access to my passport info

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          #57

          @Ehay2k @Em0nM4stodon similar experience being prompted to do pre-check-in for rental car. I stopped filling it in when 3rd party site asked for lots of PII. Picked up rental fine, just showing license and credit card at counter, makes me think they are monetising data gathering…

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          • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

            @nuwagaba2 that's what we call a long walk.

            Sorry, my donation budget is in the negative. Donald isn't returning my calls right now since I did not buy any Melania tickets, so he will probably deport me.

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            @knowprose
            Oh sorry, let me pray that everything gets well by your side. If you don't mind, consider sharing our link to your friends and anyone who would be interested in supporting

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            • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

              @Datterich
              I really like your point of protecting those who can't protect themselves. But we need to first, are those people ready and willing to be protected?

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              @nuwagaba2 @Datterich
              I wonder if "they" can have the knowledge to understand the risk and consequences of harm?

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                @ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon

                To give an analogy - people are well aware that shopping centre spaces are private...not public. You haven't got a right to be there...there's been all sorts of free speech issues. Private spaces can just bar you - like I was barred off FB. Sadly.

                People could meet at a free park or open public space - but it might not be convenient, might be raining, might be closer, etc.

                So people go to the mall/shopping centre - very soulless places IMO - and talk there. Is it better? No. But it's a place to meet.

                Most social media is likewise. Unless it literally is on fire like Twitter, most people will put up with a lot of shit cos others they know are there. Massive lock in....people use WhatsApp but not Signal or Telegram. People use text which is very insecure. It's whatever is easiest...not necessarily the best.

                And if you said 'hey I know this free park over here' and it's cold/wet/not near...your friends or family will likely leave you to it and stay in the shopping centre.

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                • glennmg@mas.toG glennmg@mas.to

                  @nuwagaba2 @Datterich
                  I wonder if "they" can have the knowledge to understand the risk and consequences of harm?

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                  @GlennMG .
                  We need to first help them.see the reality amd the danger awaiting them. How can their eyes be opened?

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    Each time a new privacy-invasive
                    feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                    If each time a new privacy-invasive
                    feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                    Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                    It is an act of self-protection but,
                    perhaps even more importantly,
                    it is also an act of protest.

                    A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                    The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                    If we do not refuse,
                    if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                    we will lose them all.

                    #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                    @rysiek Nie tylko w PL panuje tumiwisizm.... 😥

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      Each time a new privacy-invasive
                      feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                      If each time a new privacy-invasive
                      feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                      Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                      It is an act of self-protection but,
                      perhaps even more importantly,
                      it is also an act of protest.

                      A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                      The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                      If we do not refuse,
                      if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                      we will lose them all.

                      #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                      @Em0nM4stodon
                      Totally agree. But this will never happen.
                      The vast majority of people are still stuck in the “nothing to hide” fallacy.

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                      • daburudar@mastodon.socialD daburudar@mastodon.social

                        @Em0nM4stodon @nakdim People are cancelling paid Discord Nitro subscriptions en masse. Hitting discord straight in the wallet.

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                        @daburudar @Em0nM4stodon

                        Actually that's a good stand!!!

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                        • outputdoubtr@mastodon.seattlematrix.orgO outputdoubtr@mastodon.seattlematrix.org

                          @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon

                          discord is not "old school"

                          IRC is old school, and superior to discord in every way

                          because it lacks malice

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                          @outputdoubtr @Em0nM4stodon

                          I am 100% still using and supporting IRC! It rocks hard! But sadly it's only "niche" and for nerds/geek/whatever. 😕

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            Each time a new privacy-invasive
                            feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                            If each time a new privacy-invasive
                            feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                            Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                            It is an act of self-protection but,
                            perhaps even more importantly,
                            it is also an act of protest.

                            A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                            The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                            If we do not refuse,
                            if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                            we will lose them all.

                            #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                            @Em0nM4stodon "We only need to win once. You need to win every time".

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              Each time a new privacy-invasive
                              feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                              If each time a new privacy-invasive
                              feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                              Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                              It is an act of self-protection but,
                              perhaps even more importantly,
                              it is also an act of protest.

                              A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                              The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                              If we do not refuse,
                              if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                              we will lose them all.

                              #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                              @Em0nM4stodon

                              It's also an action of protection of society.
                              Eventually, some form of fascism will be in force, regardless of society. The less surveillance there is, the better chances the society has for ridding itself of the fascism and returning to safe tracks.

                              We as a society "have nothing to hide" right now, but in the future we will, some day.
                              Who supports surveillance is an enemy of the organized society.

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                              • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

                                @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

                                I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

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                                @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon

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                                Attached: 1 image Ditch Discord! In early March, Discord will begin age verification for all users world-wide. This is a violation of your freedom and privacy! Consider one of the following alternatives: www.stoatchat www.matrix.org www.signal.org www.rocket.chat https://beyond40.miraheze.org/wiki/Ditch_Discord! #Privacy #Discord #FreeSoftware #Tech

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                                • tuuktuuk@piipitin.fiT tuuktuuk@piipitin.fi

                                  @Em0nM4stodon

                                  It's also an action of protection of society.
                                  Eventually, some form of fascism will be in force, regardless of society. The less surveillance there is, the better chances the society has for ridding itself of the fascism and returning to safe tracks.

                                  We as a society "have nothing to hide" right now, but in the future we will, some day.
                                  Who supports surveillance is an enemy of the organized society.

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                                  @Tuuktuuk 💚

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                                  • F froztbyte@mastodon.social

                                    @GerardThornley @Em0nM4stodon I wrote a small thread reflecting on this, and perhaps it might change your view. Please consider reading it and seeing if it moves your stance: https://mastodon.social/@froztbyte/116042744545154806

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                                    @froztbyte @Em0nM4stodon I don't disagree with you. I did say that I felt the message is starting to get through slowly. You mention people leaving discord; I also have decided to leave a community I'm part of on there, and communicated why I was doing so. But I don't think anyone else there took the same decision. And I know many people IRL who would think I'm being paranoid. So while the mass of people who "get it" is growing, I think it is still small and unlikely to turn the tanker just yet.

                                    Note, I think it's a good start, but I think the problem now is not so much companies as it is government policy. The apps the companies built have been a vehicle for harm to children. Frightened and hurt parents are one of the most highly motivated lobbies out there, and between them and the tech companies, our governments have been persuaded to embed exactly what these companies want into national law. And it's only just happening now, so no government is going to reverse direction on it anytime soon. To change it is going to take a long time, and it's also going to require finding a solution that satisfies those campaigners for child safety. That's why I think it's going to be slow.

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