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Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters?

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  • itsfoss@mastodon.socialI itsfoss@mastodon.social

    Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters? Snaps might be a reason, but there's more to it. 😅

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    @itsfoss many reasons to hate Ubuntu, hope the list fits in a tooth:

    Centralized proprietary Snap ecosystem forced on users

    replaced gnu utils with Rust

    Amazon ads, sent search queries to Amazon (2012ish)

    their license gives extra rights over contributions

    Building Unity vs collaborating with GNOME

    Creating Mir instead of using Wayland

    Forcing Snap versions of apps like Firefox

    Killing projects like Ubuntu Touch and Unity after pushing them heavily

    Telemetry added in Ubuntu 18.04

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    • itsfoss@mastodon.socialI itsfoss@mastodon.social

      Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters? Snaps might be a reason, but there's more to it. 😅

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      Ubuntu Isn’t Perfect… But the Hate It Gets Is Over the Top

      Ubuntu may not be perfect, but the amount of hate it receives from Linux users is often exaggerated. Here's why the criticism deserves a rethink.

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      #linux #ubuntu

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      #11

      @itsfoss I love Ubuntu. What is wrong with Snap?

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      • weirdfish@literatur.socialW weirdfish@literatur.social

        @itsfoss You can use snaps, flatpaks and deb-packages side by side, and you can allways decide by yourself which one to use, so what's all the fuss anyway? Ubuntu just works.

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        @weirdfish @itsfoss I don't get it either.

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        • kalon@mastodon.socialK kalon@mastodon.social

          @itsfoss

          I've used many distros over the decades and was quite happy to have Ubuntu be a major one for a long time. But the Snaps are annoying.

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          #13

          @Kalon @itsfoss what is annoying about 'the Snaps'?

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          • itsfoss@mastodon.socialI itsfoss@mastodon.social

            Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters? Snaps might be a reason, but there's more to it. 😅

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            Ubuntu Isn’t Perfect… But the Hate It Gets Is Over the Top

            Ubuntu may not be perfect, but the amount of hate it receives from Linux users is often exaggerated. Here's why the criticism deserves a rethink.

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            It's FOSS (itsfoss.com)

            #linux #ubuntu

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            @itsfoss

            I don't hate Ubuntu but the last LTS came with some issues that were very frustrating for me and which would have vexxed someone with less experience. Three that spring to mind:

            -NTFS driver that doesn't work (why can I suddenly not access my NTFS drives!?)

            -appimages restricted (why can I not open these programs that I rely on!?)

            -GTK version not being backwards compatible (why do the GUIs of these plugins I rely on suddenly not work!?)

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            • lucasth@mastodon.socialL lucasth@mastodon.social

              @itsfoss I Kind of like Ubuntu... Is there hate? I am quite new to this.

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              @lucasth @itsfoss lots of hate, especially on reddit.

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              • itsfoss@mastodon.socialI itsfoss@mastodon.social

                Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters? Snaps might be a reason, but there's more to it. 😅

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                Ubuntu Isn’t Perfect… But the Hate It Gets Is Over the Top

                Ubuntu may not be perfect, but the amount of hate it receives from Linux users is often exaggerated. Here's why the criticism deserves a rethink.

                favicon

                It's FOSS (itsfoss.com)

                #linux #ubuntu

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                @itsfoss
                I learned a lot with Ubuntu desktop many years ago, but at one point, I felt like I was fighting more with it than I was actually using it. Snap made it even worst... For the desktop, I left for Pop!Os for many years, but now that they are not updating the Gnome version anymore, I switched to Debian. I still use Ubuntu-server a lot though...

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                • khanh@mstdn.socialK khanh@mstdn.social

                  @lucasth @itsfoss lots of hate, especially on reddit.

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                  @khanh @itsfoss ok I will just ignore that...

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                  • itsfoss@mastodon.socialI itsfoss@mastodon.social

                    Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters? Snaps might be a reason, but there's more to it. 😅

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                    Ubuntu Isn’t Perfect… But the Hate It Gets Is Over the Top

                    Ubuntu may not be perfect, but the amount of hate it receives from Linux users is often exaggerated. Here's why the criticism deserves a rethink.

                    favicon

                    It's FOSS (itsfoss.com)

                    #linux #ubuntu

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                    @itsfoss for me, it was like someone had rearranged a room in a way that didn't make sense to me.

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                    • lancejz@mastodon.socialL lancejz@mastodon.social

                      @Kalon @itsfoss what is annoying about 'the Snaps'?

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                      @LanceJZ
                      Mostly I'm just used to the old way of doing things with .deb files.

                      Beyond that I guess I've come to accept Flatpak since it seems to have become the more common cross distro packaging system.

                      @itsfoss

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                      • itsfoss@mastodon.socialI itsfoss@mastodon.social

                        Why does Ubuntu attract so many haters? Snaps might be a reason, but there's more to it. 😅

                        Link Preview Image
                        Ubuntu Isn’t Perfect… But the Hate It Gets Is Over the Top

                        Ubuntu may not be perfect, but the amount of hate it receives from Linux users is often exaggerated. Here's why the criticism deserves a rethink.

                        favicon

                        It's FOSS (itsfoss.com)

                        #linux #ubuntu

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                        @itsfoss my first distro was kubuntu (ubuntu shipping with kde) and its probably the worst distro ive used so far and ive used a lot, its not that its doing anything wrong (even tho it does with snap and probably other things) its that i dont see much reason to use it over something like fedora or just base debian

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                        • kalon@mastodon.socialK kalon@mastodon.social

                          @LanceJZ
                          Mostly I'm just used to the old way of doing things with .deb files.

                          Beyond that I guess I've come to accept Flatpak since it seems to have become the more common cross distro packaging system.

                          @itsfoss

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                          @Kalon @itsfoss I use Flatpak too, it depends on what is best supported by the dev, like the article talks about.

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                          • el_haych2024@mastodon.socialE el_haych2024@mastodon.social

                            @itsfoss for me, it was like someone had rearranged a room in a way that didn't make sense to me.

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                            @el_haych2024 An interesting take, thanks for sharing!

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