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/e/OS founder: we aren't developing a phone for pedophiles so they can evade justice

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  • notthebee@tilde.zoneN This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171

    /e/OS founder: we aren't developing a phone for pedophiles so they can evade justice

    GrapheneOS social media person: "Why are you attacking GrapheneOS?"

    grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG ilias@discuss.systemsI andromxda@infosec.spaceA hydrowalrus@mastodon.socialH 4 Replies Last reply
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    • notthebee@tilde.zoneN notthebee@tilde.zone

      RE: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171

      /e/OS founder: we aren't developing a phone for pedophiles so they can evade justice

      GrapheneOS social media person: "Why are you attacking GrapheneOS?"

      grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @notthebee This is an extreme misrepresentation of both what Gaël Duval said in this interview and our response to it. What he clearly said is that /e/ and Murena aren't providing security hardening which he claims is only useful for pedophiles, criminals and spies. Gaël Duval has repeatedly said this in his posts including ones where he directly says GrapheneOS is only useful for pedophiles, criminals and spies. We can show archives of numerous posts with him saying exactly that.

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      • notthebee@tilde.zoneN notthebee@tilde.zone

        RE: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171

        /e/OS founder: we aren't developing a phone for pedophiles so they can evade justice

        GrapheneOS social media person: "Why are you attacking GrapheneOS?"

        ilias@discuss.systemsI This user is from outside of this forum
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        @notthebee Not a fan of Duval and /e/ OS, and his stance in this video is bs. However he never mentioned GrapheneOS.

        @GrapheneOS really need to hire a pr guy, cause who ever it is behind the keyboard need to chill down. Focus on the project instead of shitposting all day. lol.

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        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

          @notthebee This is an extreme misrepresentation of both what Gaël Duval said in this interview and our response to it. What he clearly said is that /e/ and Murena aren't providing security hardening which he claims is only useful for pedophiles, criminals and spies. Gaël Duval has repeatedly said this in his posts including ones where he directly says GrapheneOS is only useful for pedophiles, criminals and spies. We can show archives of numerous posts with him saying exactly that.

          spoonmaniac@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @GrapheneOS
          Yep, clearly...
          Duval said he don't harden the security of their phones because the only use he can see is for illegal reason like pedophilia.
          This is so wrong...
          They is nothing wrong about not wanting to be spy and manipulate by corporate, states and hateful individuals.
          @notthebee

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          • notthebee@tilde.zoneN notthebee@tilde.zone

            RE: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171

            /e/OS founder: we aren't developing a phone for pedophiles so they can evade justice

            GrapheneOS social media person: "Why are you attacking GrapheneOS?"

            andromxda@infosec.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @notthebee He specifically mentioned protections against memory corruption as a "feature for pedophiles so they can evade justice".
            GrapheneOS is currently the only Android-based system that deploys a custom, hardened memory allocator and widely makes use of the ARM MTE.
            He's specifically targeting GrapheneOS, even if he doesn't mention the name of the project.
            He wants his statement to remain plausibly deniable, but anyone who listens closely to what he said will immediately see through his shady, manipulative tactics.
            Duval wants to distract from the fact that his products have atrocious privacy and security and that he's trying to make money with false claims and shady marketing.

            His statement about protections against memory corruption is also incredibly stupid, because Apple just released their Memory Integrity Enforcement feature based on the ARM v8.9 Enhanced Memory Tagging Extension in their A19 and M5 chips and recent versions of their operating systems. So, going by Duval's logic, Apple also makes products "for pedophiles so they can evade justice". It's entirely nonsensical, manipulative, and deceptive.

            (deleted the previous post because I accidentally replied to the wrong account)

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            • notthebee@tilde.zoneN notthebee@tilde.zone

              RE: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171

              /e/OS founder: we aren't developing a phone for pedophiles so they can evade justice

              GrapheneOS social media person: "Why are you attacking GrapheneOS?"

              hydrowalrus@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @notthebee Gael Duval's statement here is so ridiculous. He knows exactly what he's doing. I had some remaining respect for some of his previous work but definitely all gone after this...

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