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  3. Once again, Jaz lays out a fantastic vision for Fediverse design.

Once again, Jaz lays out a fantastic vision for Fediverse design.

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    RE: https://jaz.co.uk/2026/05/12/there-are-a-million-fediverses-some-of-them-are-louder-than-others/

    Once again, Jaz lays out a fantastic vision for Fediverse design. Chronological feeds are better than rage-bait algorithms, but they give give loudmouths too much real estate.

    - Design for people, not protocols
    -Community, not one person’s stream of consciousness
    - Community notes (from trusted sources) on divisive issues

    Read his posts and support his work!

    https://about.iftas.org/donate/

    It’s time for #Fedidev’s to figure out how to get this done.

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      RE: https://jaz.co.uk/2026/05/12/there-are-a-million-fediverses-some-of-them-are-louder-than-others/

      Once again, Jaz lays out a fantastic vision for Fediverse design. Chronological feeds are better than rage-bait algorithms, but they give give loudmouths too much real estate.

      - Design for people, not protocols
      -Community, not one person’s stream of consciousness
      - Community notes (from trusted sources) on divisive issues

      Read his posts and support his work!

      https://about.iftas.org/donate/

      It’s time for #Fedidev’s to figure out how to get this done.

      nathan@ublog.hurel.meN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @benpate@mastodon.social 💯
      Algorithm isn't a bad word when it designed for people and not against them.
      Chronological feeds are just a consequence of the protocol. The end user deserves a better experience.

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        @benpate@mastodon.social 💯
        Algorithm isn't a bad word when it designed for people and not against them.
        Chronological feeds are just a consequence of the protocol. The end user deserves a better experience.

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        @nathan

        Agreed, which is why I said "rage-bait algorithms" as a shorthand for what you get on Twitter, Facebook, and the rest.

        But we should recognize that just the word "algorithm" is quickly getting co-opted by popular culture (similar to what happened to brand names like Kleenex, Xerox, and others) to mean "dirty rage-baiting, extremist-generating, privacy-ignoring Internet-surveillance code that controls what I see and who I hate."

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          @nathan

          Agreed, which is why I said "rage-bait algorithms" as a shorthand for what you get on Twitter, Facebook, and the rest.

          But we should recognize that just the word "algorithm" is quickly getting co-opted by popular culture (similar to what happened to brand names like Kleenex, Xerox, and others) to mean "dirty rage-baiting, extremist-generating, privacy-ignoring Internet-surveillance code that controls what I see and who I hate."

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          @benpate @nathan
          I don’t like the rage-bait algorithms but sometimes they serve up trending hilarious things. I hope we can get an opt-in version of that on Mastodon.

          Also, I temporarily mute accounts that quantity-post and I wish there were a better way.

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            @benpate @nathan
            I don’t like the rage-bait algorithms but sometimes they serve up trending hilarious things. I hope we can get an opt-in version of that on Mastodon.

            Also, I temporarily mute accounts that quantity-post and I wish there were a better way.

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            @kevinashworth @nathan

            Yes, sometimes they do make for great entertainment.

            "Rage bait" is just a placeholder for a wide range of issues. More and more, I'm concerned about how we turn over so much individual autonomy to algorithms.

            It's the difference between getting help from a computer (setting your own mutes) vs. turning over your life to one like the far-future people in Wall-e.

            (And yes: I know Wall-e is ironically a movie by the for-profit Disney corporation)

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