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  • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

    Anthropic lost a class action suit for scraping books. Writers can register with Anthropic to be compensated for their pillaging of our copyrights.

    The compensation system was AI-coded.

    Anthropic can't keep track of our submissions. They don't know who wrote what.

    Their customer support is AI-driven. Send a mail! Log in to a nonexistent page! Resubmit and it'll be fine!

    This will be fine.

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    slotos@toot.community
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    @mwl I see what problems AI solves here. Genius move, Anthropic.

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      @mwl I see what problems AI solves here. Genius move, Anthropic.

      mwl@io.mwl.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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      mwl@io.mwl.io
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      @slotos "paying people for their IP." That's the problem they're solving.

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      • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

        Anthropic lost a class action suit for scraping books. Writers can register with Anthropic to be compensated for their pillaging of our copyrights.

        The compensation system was AI-coded.

        Anthropic can't keep track of our submissions. They don't know who wrote what.

        Their customer support is AI-driven. Send a mail! Log in to a nonexistent page! Resubmit and it'll be fine!

        This will be fine.

        gnaddrig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        gnaddrig@mastodon.social
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        @mwl
        Honi soit qui mal y pense...

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        • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

          Anthropic lost a class action suit for scraping books. Writers can register with Anthropic to be compensated for their pillaging of our copyrights.

          The compensation system was AI-coded.

          Anthropic can't keep track of our submissions. They don't know who wrote what.

          Their customer support is AI-driven. Send a mail! Log in to a nonexistent page! Resubmit and it'll be fine!

          This will be fine.

          nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
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          @mwl Modern life built on quicksand.

          Why so many rush to predicate way too much on unproven tech. Worse - tech proven to be flawed.

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          • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

            @slotos "paying people for their IP." That's the problem they're solving.

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            slotos@toot.community
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            @mwl I suspect you might be the first person to progress that thought to “for their IP” part.

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            • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

              Anthropic lost a class action suit for scraping books. Writers can register with Anthropic to be compensated for their pillaging of our copyrights.

              The compensation system was AI-coded.

              Anthropic can't keep track of our submissions. They don't know who wrote what.

              Their customer support is AI-driven. Send a mail! Log in to a nonexistent page! Resubmit and it'll be fine!

              This will be fine.

              nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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              nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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              @mwl But what if you never wanted your work in the model in the first place? They have no way of removing your works?

              Even twenty years ago, judges would have shut this shit down, and laughed as the AI peddlers ran out of the courtroom with their tails tucked between their legs. It is just such absolutely blatant theft.

              But then big money got behind it, and now its all, "Nooooo, we can't let AI fail! The Chinese might beat us to the singularity!" We neeeeed AI for nazional securitay!

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              • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @mwl But what if you never wanted your work in the model in the first place? They have no way of removing your works?

                Even twenty years ago, judges would have shut this shit down, and laughed as the AI peddlers ran out of the courtroom with their tails tucked between their legs. It is just such absolutely blatant theft.

                But then big money got behind it, and now its all, "Nooooo, we can't let AI fail! The Chinese might beat us to the singularity!" We neeeeed AI for nazional securitay!

                mwl@io.mwl.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                mwl@io.mwl.io
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                @nuintari Pardon me for screaming volcanically in agreement

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                  @mwl I suspect you might be the first person to progress that thought to “for their IP” part.

                  mwl@io.mwl.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  mwl@io.mwl.io
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                  @slotos Writers are notoriously ignorant of copyright.

                  So are programmers. Especially terminally online open source folks.

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                  • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                    @nuintari Pardon me for screaming volcanically in agreement

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                    @mwl Is this.... is this a great minds moment?

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                    • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                      Anthropic lost a class action suit for scraping books. Writers can register with Anthropic to be compensated for their pillaging of our copyrights.

                      The compensation system was AI-coded.

                      Anthropic can't keep track of our submissions. They don't know who wrote what.

                      Their customer support is AI-driven. Send a mail! Log in to a nonexistent page! Resubmit and it'll be fine!

                      This will be fine.

                      bweller@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      bweller@mstdn.social
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                      @mwl sounds like contempt of court

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                      • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                        @nuintari Pardon me for screaming volcanically in agreement

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                        xenophage@infosec.exchange
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                        @mwl @nuintari Can you maybe aim that a little to the east? There’s a white house that could use a new paintjob…

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                        • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                          @slotos Writers are notoriously ignorant of copyright.

                          So are programmers. Especially terminally online open source folks.

                          rupert@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mwl @slotos I'll grant you "idealistic about copyright" regarding people who think that copyright grants the same protection to their work as it does to Microsoft's. But not ignorant, because on paper it does.

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                          • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                            Anthropic lost a class action suit for scraping books. Writers can register with Anthropic to be compensated for their pillaging of our copyrights.

                            The compensation system was AI-coded.

                            Anthropic can't keep track of our submissions. They don't know who wrote what.

                            Their customer support is AI-driven. Send a mail! Log in to a nonexistent page! Resubmit and it'll be fine!

                            This will be fine.

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                            xgebi@hachyderm.io
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                            @mwl is there a source for this?

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                            • xgebi@hachyderm.ioX xgebi@hachyderm.io

                              @mwl is there a source for this?

                              mwl@io.mwl.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mwl@io.mwl.io
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                              @xgebi it's big discussion over on bsky, and I've experienced it myself.

                              They're proposing corrections on my original filing to add books included in the original filing, providing multiple incompatible answers to questions on how to correct filings, and the human help desk says it's buggy software and they can't help you.

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                              • rupert@mastodon.nzR rupert@mastodon.nz

                                @mwl @slotos I'll grant you "idealistic about copyright" regarding people who think that copyright grants the same protection to their work as it does to Microsoft's. But not ignorant, because on paper it does.

                                mwl@io.mwl.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                mwl@io.mwl.io
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                                @rupert @slotos that's true. But folks have very weird ideas about copyright that aren't in the law. Read Nolo Press' Copyright Handbook if you're curious.

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                                • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @mwl Is this.... is this a great minds moment?

                                  mwl@io.mwl.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mwl@io.mwl.io
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                                  @nuintari There's great minds. Then there's our minds.

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