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  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

    Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

    "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

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    @fj why I have nearly been run off th road twice in the last year

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    • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

      Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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      @fj We had an F150 beside us on a Dual Carriageway, somehow in the Blindspot but that was an F150 and I've no idea why anyone needs a vehicle that big

      The bed capacity was lower than the Mercedes Sprinter my dad used to own and that thing was basically the same size as one of these, but that's a commercial vehicle.

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      • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

        @reloadedhead @fj Because they endanger others, use way more space and it also encourages driving like pricks.
        Or is it just making pricks more visible?

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        @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

        I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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        • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

          Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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          @fj Rightly so...

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          • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

            @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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            @Rin3d @fj
            That's not a vehicle for hauling stuff. It's a soccer-mom truck for running over the other kids.

            If it was for hauling stuff, all that space would be used for the truck bed, instead of wasting it up front where its only function is to prevent seeing the terror on the face of the kids as you run them over.

            This is what a truck for hauling stuff looks like. Note where all the space goes:

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            • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

              Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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              @fj #Funfact: One can just buy these in the #EU, just good luck stomaching the absurd high costs, findibg parkibg spots and paying for fuel & insurance on the gas-guzzling monstrosities!

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                Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                @fj We have big problems with these large vehicles, and the super-sizing of pickups and SUVs in the narrow and winding roads that are village neighborhood streets in urban and suburban Thailand.

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                • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                  Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                  @fj we have enough trouble around here with enormous tractors and what they are towing.

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                  • sanzky@masto.esS sanzky@masto.es

                    @cm @fj even "large" european SUVs are smaller than the monsters the US has

                    (peugeot 5008 vs cadillac escalade)

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                    @sanzky @fj That Peugeot is not an overly large car, it's about the length of a full size european station wagon like the classic Volvo 745 or Mercedes W123/W124T. I'd select the Mercedes GLS as a comparison for the Escalade, and then we're in the same ballpark of oversized ugly abominations. What's the more interesting question then: how many of each are sold in EU/US?

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                    • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                      @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                      I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                      @reloadedhead @richlv @fj They absolutely are far more deadly in accidents involving pedestrians and cyclists (of which we have so many more in the EU than in the US).

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                      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                        Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                        @fj those aren’t the largest pick-up trucks btw

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                        • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                          @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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                          @reloadedhead @fj Because letting random people slice the tires of such vehicles is not the way a civilized society should handle things.

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                          • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                            @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                            I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                            @reloadedhead @richlv @fj I see aso’s driving these wank panzers around narrow streets in Amsterdam.

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                            • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

                              @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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                              @Rin3d @fj
                              Actually this almost 20 year old Twingo is capable of hauling more stuff as this useless-but-expensive american truck-wannabee πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

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                              • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                                @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                                I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                                @reloadedhead @richlv @fj From what I can tell, they're not even that good as duty vehicles and most never get used in that way.

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                                  Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                  @fj "But what if you need to transport your fridge thru the desert? You can't fit that in that small thing..."

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                                    @simon_brooke @fj also if it doesn’t fit in the parking spot - tow away.

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                                    • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                                      @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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                                      @reloadedhead Fuck off. Nobody wants to walk or bike near that shit. Hell, most people don't want to drive a normal car near it either.
                                      You are free to move to the USA if you want to drive one.

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                                        @simon_brooke it's easy - fire engines are fire engines, private vehicles are not fire engines. I totally agree that these monstrosities should be banned.

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                                        • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                          Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                          @fj - all these dinosaurs on wheels are useless most of the time and a real threat for safety on European roads. Furthermore, they are not sustainable at all and we are now aware what happens, if US government is going to attack Iran again.

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