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Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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  • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

    @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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    @Rin3d @fj
    Actually this almost 20 year old Twingo is capable of hauling more stuff as this useless-but-expensive american truck-wannabee πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

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    • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

      @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

      I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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      @reloadedhead @richlv @fj From what I can tell, they're not even that good as duty vehicles and most never get used in that way.

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      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

        Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

        "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

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        @fj "But what if you need to transport your fridge thru the desert? You can't fit that in that small thing..."

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          @simon_brooke @fj also if it doesn’t fit in the parking spot - tow away.

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          • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

            @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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            @reloadedhead Fuck off. Nobody wants to walk or bike near that shit. Hell, most people don't want to drive a normal car near it either.
            You are free to move to the USA if you want to drive one.

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              @simon_brooke it's easy - fire engines are fire engines, private vehicles are not fire engines. I totally agree that these monstrosities should be banned.

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              • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                @fj - all these dinosaurs on wheels are useless most of the time and a real threat for safety on European roads. Furthermore, they are not sustainable at all and we are now aware what happens, if US government is going to attack Iran again.

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                • mwyman@mastodon.socialM mwyman@mastodon.social

                  @fj I wish they’d be largely banned from American roads, too.

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                  @mwyman @fj Ten dollar a gallon gas will fix that.

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                  • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                    @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                    I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                    @richlv @fj @reloadedhead

                    First and foremost: large vehicles are safer for the people in them, but much less safe for those around them. They crush smaller cars. Small children cannot be seen if close to the front. The headlights blind me when one of these is behind me in the road. They block sight lines. I think that wanting a big truck is basically anti-social.
                    This goes double for cybertrucks.

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                    • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                      @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                      I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                      @reloadedhead @richlv @fj
                      this article has an in depth analysis. these things are deadly. More mass = more momentum = more energy transfer in collision. Also, there is the fact that lower cars break legs, these things smash thoracic cages.
                      https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2025/being-hit-suv-increases-likelihood-death-or-serious-injury

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                      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                        Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                        @fj Well, they are right, and thank God Brussels saves and protects us from these abominations.

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                        • K kkarhan@jorts.horse

                          @fj #Funfact: One can just buy these in the #EU, just good luck stomaching the absurd high costs, findibg parkibg spots and paying for fuel & insurance on the gas-guzzling monstrosities!

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                          @kkarhan @fj

                          My neighbor drives a VW Amarok, and I think this thing is ridiculously oversized.
                          You definitely don't need something like that here in Central Europe, in the Rhine-Main area. Of course, it's different in rural areas of the USA.

                          I got annoyed again today. My brother has a Citroen Aircross, and he parked next to a Mini today, and the Mini is now almost as long as the Aircross. What's wrong with the people?

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                          • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

                            @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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                            @Rin3d @fj In the US about 95% of pickup trucks on the road at any time have an empty truck bed and 1 person in them. I lived in SoCal for 15 years and most of the big pickup trucks there have zero scratches anywhere, including the bed liner.
                            People who actually need to move shit drive old Toyota pickups or minivans.

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                            • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                              @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                              I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                              @richlv @fj @reloadedhead

                              One thing we see in the US is a continual arms race to bigger and bigger vehicles, partly due to this β€œsafer than thou” mentality, partly machismo. But when it’s normalized, narrow streets start to be seen as the problem instead of the vehicles. The streets become one-way, parking is terrible, the roads are torn up by the extra weight.

                              And you never, ever see any cargo being carried.

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                              • catflyhigh@troet.cafeC catflyhigh@troet.cafe

                                @kkarhan @fj

                                My neighbor drives a VW Amarok, and I think this thing is ridiculously oversized.
                                You definitely don't need something like that here in Central Europe, in the Rhine-Main area. Of course, it's different in rural areas of the USA.

                                I got annoyed again today. My brother has a Citroen Aircross, and he parked next to a Mini today, and the Mini is now almost as long as the Aircross. What's wrong with the people?

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                                @catflyhigh @fj only rich #Wankers and #Boomers can afford new #Cars in #Greedflation!

                                • Meanwhile #KeiCars show how a limited envelope breeds innovation!
                                  • And we need mire #PersonalLightVehicles instead of #SuperUselessVehicles…
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                                • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

                                  @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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                                  @Rin3d @fj As others have pointed out, the F-350 crew cab is very often NOT a work truck. It's frequently a passenger vehicle in the US and should be compared to that.

                                  But if you insist ...

                                  And for the record, the F-350 is 51% heavier.

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                                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                    Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                    @fj What those carmakers failed to understand is that the European infrastructures are no designed to accommodate such vehicles (parking space, narrow street of old cities, etc).
                                    Also there are not adapted to coexist with pedestrians and bicycles.
                                    Those problems doesn’t exist in US as cities are car centered and walking nearby or biking on roads is considered an heresy.

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                                    • tkissing@mastodon.socialT tkissing@mastodon.social

                                      @reloadedhead Fuck off. Nobody wants to walk or bike near that shit. Hell, most people don't want to drive a normal car near it either.
                                      You are free to move to the USA if you want to drive one.

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                                      @tkissing chill, I asked respectfully. You should consider answering in a similar manner.

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                                      • kensan@mastodon.socialK kensan@mastodon.social

                                        @fj Id much rather have Japanese Kei cars on our roads.

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                                        @Kensan @fj 100%

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                                          Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                          @fj

                                          6.35m long?

                                          How small are Americans' dicks that they need to compensate to this degree?

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