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I love it that there's two types of fediblock posts:

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  • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY This user is from outside of this forum
    ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY This user is from outside of this forum
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    I love it that there's two types of fediblock posts:

    1) "this instance is unmoderated and hosts CSAM and/or bigotry. here's some receipts. please block them."

    2) [several-paragraph rant about how a trans woman said "fuck men" and therefore needs to be exiled from society forever]

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      I love it that there's two types of fediblock posts:

      1) "this instance is unmoderated and hosts CSAM and/or bigotry. here's some receipts. please block them."

      2) [several-paragraph rant about how a trans woman said "fuck men" and therefore needs to be exiled from society forever]

      ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY This user is from outside of this forum
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      seriously though, the fediblock hashtag exemplifies all of the good and bad things about networked inter-community moderation on fedi in a nutshell. it provides a valuable place for instance admins to keep each other alert for fascist, CSAM, and spam instances, as well as serial bad actors (e.g. dav1d) - and on a social media network that's largely running on anarchist principles of mutual cooperation, that's great.

      and also, it features absolutely zero guardrails against whiny, fragile actors dragging personal conflicts or disagreements out into the open and treating them as though they need to be addressed as a fedi-wide moderation issue. so we get recurring issues like a certain four-account instance pushing their rants about small-follower transfeminine accounts doing "misandry" out there alongside legitimate callouts for defederation.

      I'm not sure what the solution to the latter might be, but there has to be a better way.

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      • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systems

        seriously though, the fediblock hashtag exemplifies all of the good and bad things about networked inter-community moderation on fedi in a nutshell. it provides a valuable place for instance admins to keep each other alert for fascist, CSAM, and spam instances, as well as serial bad actors (e.g. dav1d) - and on a social media network that's largely running on anarchist principles of mutual cooperation, that's great.

        and also, it features absolutely zero guardrails against whiny, fragile actors dragging personal conflicts or disagreements out into the open and treating them as though they need to be addressed as a fedi-wide moderation issue. so we get recurring issues like a certain four-account instance pushing their rants about small-follower transfeminine accounts doing "misandry" out there alongside legitimate callouts for defederation.

        I'm not sure what the solution to the latter might be, but there has to be a better way.

        anhedonie@chaosfem.twA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @YKantRachelRead I don't understand how there's not been some agreed upon rule among admins using the fediblock hashtag that accounts using the hashtag to boost their weird beefs and run harassment campaigns get automatically suspended for a month, or something

        less noise, and your community defence tool doesn't get turned into a megaphone for hatred

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          @YKantRachelRead I don't understand how there's not been some agreed upon rule among admins using the fediblock hashtag that accounts using the hashtag to boost their weird beefs and run harassment campaigns get automatically suspended for a month, or something

          less noise, and your community defence tool doesn't get turned into a megaphone for hatred

          ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY This user is from outside of this forum
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          @anhedonie if I had any real say in fediverse moderation, as opposed to just being a periodic gadfly, I'd totally suggest something like that.

          and also, if I was a fedi moderator, I'd probably get called out on fediblock pretty quickly lol, so,

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          • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systems

            @anhedonie if I had any real say in fediverse moderation, as opposed to just being a periodic gadfly, I'd totally suggest something like that.

            and also, if I was a fedi moderator, I'd probably get called out on fediblock pretty quickly lol, so,

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            @YKantRachelRead@social.treehouse.systems @anhedonie@chaosfem.tw There was a time 3-4 years ago(?) when fediblock notices were flying around hourly. things have gotten a lot better since drama around tbs has died down, but some admins and folks continue to try to push their interpersonal drama and politics into the tag. The nature of decentalized architecture and moderation means some of this is inevitable, but far preferable to having a Zuckerberg, Musk, or other algorithm making decisions from on-high.

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