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  • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

    Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

    rail@snailedit.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tagir_valeev Has Glean been a well evidenced data driven positive impact on the business?

    If not, this would be a great opportunity to campaign to remove such tooling that which may not be providing the positive impact the business was intending

    I’ve found AI chatbots via Slack has not worked out worked out well for our teams

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    • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

      Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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      @tagir_valeev That happened Tuesday at my senior citizen program, and no AI was involved. I was the only person who left the building. I wrote an angry email and the office responded that they just wanted us to know where the fire exits were.

      Dear God people do not realize how FAST fire is.

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      • rail@snailedit.socialR rail@snailedit.social

        @tagir_valeev Has Glean been a well evidenced data driven positive impact on the business?

        If not, this would be a great opportunity to campaign to remove such tooling that which may not be providing the positive impact the business was intending

        I’ve found AI chatbots via Slack has not worked out worked out well for our teams

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        @rail sometimes, it's helpful when asked explicitly. Automatic answers are indeed annoying. But it looks like it's getting better, so we are still evaluating.

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        • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

          @mhd reminds me of https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ

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          @mhd @tagir_valeev I knew without the preview that this would be a link to the IT crowd episode xD Nice to know that I'm not the only one who still thinks of that! Fire! Exclamation mark!

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          • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

            Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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            @tagir_valeev @mathowie Decades ago, I read a story (I want to say on Slashdot?) about a baffling email sent to thousands of employees at a large corporation, that said, simply, “DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL.” Ultimately, it turned out that one of their buildings at one location had a false fire alarm, and some well-meaning person emailed everybody to inform them of that fact.

            In 2026, we have automated DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL, and it's wrong.

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            • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

              Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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              @tagir_valeev I'm thoroughly convinced that the AI will kill us with bad directions on the maps and things like what you described!

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              • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                @tagir_valeev Fake mushroom gathering e-books on Amazon quite probably already have.

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                • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                  @TerryBTwo there's no 'instead of' in my post. Please read carefully.

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                  @tagir_valeev As noted-the implication.of "AI will kill us " is precisely that.

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                  • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                    Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                    @tagir_valeev Just me, but I would not start a thread when my building's fire alarm goes off. I'd go stand in the parking lot.🚒

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                    • daniel_bohrer@chaos.socialD daniel_bohrer@chaos.social

                      @Matt_999 @tagir_valeev it is still probably a good idea to leave your workplace and go to the emergency meeting point, so you get used to the process, and don't forget to take e.g. shoes, jacket, wallet, keys … with you if the alarm turns out to be a real alarm. Or even have to find out first where the next fire extinguisher or the emergency meeting point is…

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                      @daniel_bohrer @Matt_999 @tagir_valeev I mean, it's a free break that you can't be penalised for. Might suck if it's bad weather out, but still, it's a break.

                      Don't dawdle while leaving or you'll be trampled by the smokers. Extra smoke break!!!

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                      • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                        Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                        @tagir_valeev München Calling...

                        Engines stop runnin', but I have no fear
                        'Cause London is drownin' and I live by the river

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                        • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                          Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                          • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                            Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                            @tagir_valeev

                            If it was a test then folks should do what they are supposed to do in a fire alarm to test the complete system.

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                            • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                              Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                              @tagir_valeev A deadly case of the general principle that the situationally useful information lies not in the statistical pattern but in where and how deviations from the pattern occur.

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                              • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                                @tagir_valeev More galling still, a scheduled test of a fire alarm system typically *still includes evacuation.* Leaving the building *is* the drill. I have never worked in an office where there was any condition under which occupants are told to ignore the alarm.

                                Ignoring alarms leads to alarm fatigue which then leads to failure. Alarms either exist for a reason or they don't. A device that says otherwise is a broken device. You're right, devices like that will kill.

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                                  @tagir_valeev More galling still, a scheduled test of a fire alarm system typically *still includes evacuation.* Leaving the building *is* the drill. I have never worked in an office where there was any condition under which occupants are told to ignore the alarm.

                                  Ignoring alarms leads to alarm fatigue which then leads to failure. Alarms either exist for a reason or they don't. A device that says otherwise is a broken device. You're right, devices like that will kill.

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                                  @majick well, in our case there were definitely cases of 'scheduled alarm maintenance'. In that time, random alarms occurred many times during two or three hours. Evacuating after every single of them would mean nobody is doing the actual work during the good part of the day.

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                                  • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                    @majick well, in our case there were definitely cases of 'scheduled alarm maintenance'. In that time, random alarms occurred many times during two or three hours. Evacuating after every single of them would mean nobody is doing the actual work during the good part of the day.

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                                    @tagir_valeev Exceptions like that are reasonable, I think, with the caveat that 'being prepared to not die' is the actual work on any good day.

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                                    • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                      Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                                      @tagir_valeev As 90% of fire alarms are drills, it makes perfect sense to respond with the most likely scenario.

                                      ( /s in case it wasn’t obvious. Rather startling that people are arguing with you.)

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                                      • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                        Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                                        @tagir_valeev idk Dude, when theres a fire alarm I leave the building and make sure everyone made it out, and dont write shit in Slack

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                                        • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                          Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                                          @tagir_valeev ... and even if it was a drill, you're supposed to leave. So not only the thing has no criteria, just parrots what it has heard before, it's also parroting the wrong thing.

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