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One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then?

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  • audunmb@todon.nlA audunmb@todon.nl

    @futurebird is this in the web version? or in an app?

    futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @audunmb

    Both. I think it may be worse since my feed is VERY active.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then? When I go back? I can't find it.

      "back" isn't really back for some reason since the feed will refresh and whatever I saw was buried. Searching is hit or miss. Is there a way to address this UI issue in design? Does anyone else have this problem?

      I could see the utility of some kind of alternate back button that takes you back to what you were looking at previously.

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      @futurebird

      Sometimes I find it sometimes I don't, but I was never able to find it on Twitter. I appreciate the consistent post ordering instead of an oligarch's grab bag of the most inflammatory posts.

      I can imagine a few ways to help find posts that get buried by the fire hose. One is to add a grayscale bar with brightness that oscillates slowly so you can remember what brightness the bar was by the post of interest then scroll quickly to that brightness value back in time. Even if it just narrows it down to the most recent three waves that's three places to check not an infinite scroll of places

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        @audunmb

        Both. I think it may be worse since my feed is VERY active.

        audunmb@todon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @futurebird with @apps the feed doesn't refresh until I tell it too, that works for the app version at least.

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        • drdrowland@fediscience.orgD drdrowland@fediscience.org

          @futurebird

          Sometimes I find it sometimes I don't, but I was never able to find it on Twitter. I appreciate the consistent post ordering instead of an oligarch's grab bag of the most inflammatory posts.

          I can imagine a few ways to help find posts that get buried by the fire hose. One is to add a grayscale bar with brightness that oscillates slowly so you can remember what brightness the bar was by the post of interest then scroll quickly to that brightness value back in time. Even if it just narrows it down to the most recent three waves that's three places to check not an infinite scroll of places

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          @drdrowland

          this is a much more elegant idea ... I was thinking of a probably confusing extra back button that's "hard back" in other words "take me back to what I was looking at before NOT to the feed I was looking at before"

          Though I suspect when people click "back" the later is more often what they intend.

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          • audunmb@todon.nlA audunmb@todon.nl

            @futurebird with @apps the feed doesn't refresh until I tell it too, that works for the app version at least.

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            @futurebird and there's a slow mode option that you can enable in Mastodon (web version), that might solve your issue?

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              @drdrowland

              this is a much more elegant idea ... I was thinking of a probably confusing extra back button that's "hard back" in other words "take me back to what I was looking at before NOT to the feed I was looking at before"

              Though I suspect when people click "back" the later is more often what they intend.

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              Post numbering could work, too. Every client gets its own numbering and numbering style

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then? When I go back? I can't find it.

                "back" isn't really back for some reason since the feed will refresh and whatever I saw was buried. Searching is hit or miss. Is there a way to address this UI issue in design? Does anyone else have this problem?

                I could see the utility of some kind of alternate back button that takes you back to what you were looking at previously.

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                @futurebird Yep, I definitely experience this! Find I have to be really organised if there's even a hint of me maybe wanting to get back to a post.

                I've idly thought we could really do with an efficient way of recording all the posts that we see (e.g. hand-wavy, while the tab has focus) for us to refer back to. Bit like browser history, but for the in-page posts.

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  @audunmb

                  Both. I think it may be worse since my feed is VERY active.

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                  @futurebird not entirely sure if I understand the problem correctly. However it seems with the "Slow Mode" (/settings/preferences/appearance) enabled in the web view, I can open posts, then click "Back" and arrive at the exact same point in my timeline. New posts aren't loaded into the feed automatically, but show up if you click the button to reveal them. I don't know if that's how you want to use Mastodon (or maybe already do and I didn't get it), but I think it's worth a try.

                  @audunmb

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then? When I go back? I can't find it.

                    "back" isn't really back for some reason since the feed will refresh and whatever I saw was buried. Searching is hit or miss. Is there a way to address this UI issue in design? Does anyone else have this problem?

                    I could see the utility of some kind of alternate back button that takes you back to what you were looking at previously.

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                    @futurebird
                    My solution to this recently was to reduce the number of people I am following. It's taking some time to figure out who I should keep and who goes, but anything that floods my feed has not been the best for me as I start to just feel overwhelmed.

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                    • cassandra_complex@beige.partyC cassandra_complex@beige.party

                      @futurebird
                      My solution to this recently was to reduce the number of people I am following. It's taking some time to figure out who I should keep and who goes, but anything that floods my feed has not been the best for me as I start to just feel overwhelmed.

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                      @Cassandra_Complex

                      that makes sense, but I love how active and chaotic my feed is. I wish it was more diverse in topics though. more international, more people up to stuff I didn't even think existed.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then? When I go back? I can't find it.

                        "back" isn't really back for some reason since the feed will refresh and whatever I saw was buried. Searching is hit or miss. Is there a way to address this UI issue in design? Does anyone else have this problem?

                        I could see the utility of some kind of alternate back button that takes you back to what you were looking at previously.

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                        @futurebird bookmarks are your friend!

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          @Cassandra_Complex

                          that makes sense, but I love how active and chaotic my feed is. I wish it was more diverse in topics though. more international, more people up to stuff I didn't even think existed.

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                          @futurebird
                          That is the trade-off unfortunately (along with kind of feeling like an ass when deciding not to add someone or to remove them)

                          Though for finding a flood of other people I wouldn't normally see or interact with, I go to the live public feed and set it to all instances, then just try to pick interesting things out of the feed as it goes by. Which also has that exact effect of occasionally seeing something cool and losing it down the list in a quarter of a second. Sometimes, I get lucky though and find interesting new ideas and people.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then? When I go back? I can't find it.

                            "back" isn't really back for some reason since the feed will refresh and whatever I saw was buried. Searching is hit or miss. Is there a way to address this UI issue in design? Does anyone else have this problem?

                            I could see the utility of some kind of alternate back button that takes you back to what you were looking at previously.

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                            @futurebird the app I’m using (Ice Cubes) is less bad about that than the other apps I’ve tried, it uuuusually remembers where I was. I use bookmarks, but I would love to have something like a temporary pin for where I left off in the feed.

                            And search! Ho ho, if we had a working search function, wow I can’t even imagine.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              One thing that happens way too much on mastodon is I see a cool post but click away too fast... then? When I go back? I can't find it.

                              "back" isn't really back for some reason since the feed will refresh and whatever I saw was buried. Searching is hit or miss. Is there a way to address this UI issue in design? Does anyone else have this problem?

                              I could see the utility of some kind of alternate back button that takes you back to what you were looking at previously.

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                              @futurebird I use the Bookmark feature for this purpose.

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