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  3. When a reporter says that someone in the Whitehouse gave them insider info you have to take it with a grain of salt.

When a reporter says that someone in the Whitehouse gave them insider info you have to take it with a grain of salt.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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    When a reporter says that someone in the Whitehouse gave them insider info you have to take it with a grain of salt.

    But the reports that Trump's cabinet and leading republicans are demoralized since he's leading based on whims and "it's not working" are very disturbing if true.

    We really may have bungled into a war, killed all those people on a whim.

    Is that worse than doing it for corrupt evil reasons with an evil master plan?

    I suppose it doesn't matter.

    futurebird@sauropods.winF wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN 3 Replies Last reply
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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      When a reporter says that someone in the Whitehouse gave them insider info you have to take it with a grain of salt.

      But the reports that Trump's cabinet and leading republicans are demoralized since he's leading based on whims and "it's not working" are very disturbing if true.

      We really may have bungled into a war, killed all those people on a whim.

      Is that worse than doing it for corrupt evil reasons with an evil master plan?

      I suppose it doesn't matter.

      futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
      futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
      futurebird@sauropods.win
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      I'm also disturbed by reporting on how the military may be using AI. And not just because I don't like AI... if sounds like Pete may have put his full faith in these systems. And why wouldn't he? He's not an international policy expert. He doesn't know or care about what Iran is really like. He doesn't understand "the enemy" ...

      I also think they hit the school on purpose. All this talk of "no guard rails"

      david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD futurebird@sauropods.winF nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN 3 Replies Last reply
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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        When a reporter says that someone in the Whitehouse gave them insider info you have to take it with a grain of salt.

        But the reports that Trump's cabinet and leading republicans are demoralized since he's leading based on whims and "it's not working" are very disturbing if true.

        We really may have bungled into a war, killed all those people on a whim.

        Is that worse than doing it for corrupt evil reasons with an evil master plan?

        I suppose it doesn't matter.

        wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
        wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
        wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social
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        @futurebird There is no court of evil where we lay evils upon the table to be judged and ranked. There are no prizes for worst evil or stupidest evil (though maybe there should be, like the Darwin awards.)

        But there is a special place in hell for those who abet a stupid evil, knowing full well that it was both stupid and evil.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          I'm also disturbed by reporting on how the military may be using AI. And not just because I don't like AI... if sounds like Pete may have put his full faith in these systems. And why wouldn't he? He's not an international policy expert. He doesn't know or care about what Iran is really like. He doesn't understand "the enemy" ...

          I also think they hit the school on purpose. All this talk of "no guard rails"

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          @futurebird

          They also have a strong aversion to 'academic elites' and so fired a load of the experts who would have been able to tell them that the machine is talking nonsense.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            When a reporter says that someone in the Whitehouse gave them insider info you have to take it with a grain of salt.

            But the reports that Trump's cabinet and leading republicans are demoralized since he's leading based on whims and "it's not working" are very disturbing if true.

            We really may have bungled into a war, killed all those people on a whim.

            Is that worse than doing it for corrupt evil reasons with an evil master plan?

            I suppose it doesn't matter.

            nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @futurebird You can take this with a grain of salt, but I believe that this is actually Project 2025's baby. This fits right into their plans (except for the really sucking at it part — they can't help that they kind of suck at this stuff, they're nazis) and I think they just had him sign it then told him he wanted to do it. Now he's finding out that it makes him look bad and that upsets him on principle after the fact.

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              I'm also disturbed by reporting on how the military may be using AI. And not just because I don't like AI... if sounds like Pete may have put his full faith in these systems. And why wouldn't he? He's not an international policy expert. He doesn't know or care about what Iran is really like. He doesn't understand "the enemy" ...

              I also think they hit the school on purpose. All this talk of "no guard rails"

              futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
              futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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              Is there a document in chirpy chat bot language like:

              "You're absolutely right Pete, a fearless and decisive first strike will set the tone for achieving your goals. You bravely avoid being held back by moral squeamishness so a plausibly deniable soft target will maximize the psychological blow."

              Of course, this has all backfired.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                I'm also disturbed by reporting on how the military may be using AI. And not just because I don't like AI... if sounds like Pete may have put his full faith in these systems. And why wouldn't he? He's not an international policy expert. He doesn't know or care about what Iran is really like. He doesn't understand "the enemy" ...

                I also think they hit the school on purpose. All this talk of "no guard rails"

                nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                @futurebird From what I've heard, the system they used isn't "AI" in the same way that people are using it now (eg LLMs shoehorned into pretending to be general agents) but a more traditional system, just without properly updated information. (Ok, it's still a bit shoehorned.)

                EDIT: This is probably what they used: https://c.im/@cdarwin/116296227411105084

                Yeah, Maven by Palantir... It's sort of both better in that it's not a LLM, but worse for what it really is...

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                • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                  @futurebird

                  They also have a strong aversion to 'academic elites' and so fired a load of the experts who would have been able to tell them that the machine is talking nonsense.

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                  @david_chisnall

                  The US military had many "woke" policies. In every case these were pragmatic policies.

                  You have fair promotions and hiring so you get the best people. You study the language and culture of other countries so you can predict what they will do. You don't assonate leaders because then you will be targeted for assassination or other extreme responses. You don't attack during peace talks so people take your peace talks seriously.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @david_chisnall

                    The US military had many "woke" policies. In every case these were pragmatic policies.

                    You have fair promotions and hiring so you get the best people. You study the language and culture of other countries so you can predict what they will do. You don't assonate leaders because then you will be targeted for assassination or other extreme responses. You don't attack during peace talks so people take your peace talks seriously.

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                    @david_chisnall

                    You don't bomb schools because "the enemy" will use that to galvanize the public, and you will lose international support since you must either admit to being incompetent "we missed" or depraved.

                    Every nation on earth is able to inflict massive violence if they really wanted to. Every person is able to do this. Extreme violence is easy. I don't think they get any of this.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @david_chisnall

                      You don't bomb schools because "the enemy" will use that to galvanize the public, and you will lose international support since you must either admit to being incompetent "we missed" or depraved.

                      Every nation on earth is able to inflict massive violence if they really wanted to. Every person is able to do this. Extreme violence is easy. I don't think they get any of this.

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                      @david_chisnall

                      The western chauvinism that informs this idea that a country like Iran can't really hurt us may comfort your base... but you can't operate like you really think it's true.

                      Reality is woke and in war you are dealing with reality.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        @david_chisnall

                        You don't bomb schools because "the enemy" will use that to galvanize the public, and you will lose international support since you must either admit to being incompetent "we missed" or depraved.

                        Every nation on earth is able to inflict massive violence if they really wanted to. Every person is able to do this. Extreme violence is easy. I don't think they get any of this.

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                        @futurebird You are assuming that there is a functional organization actually running our government and that they intend for this particular method of governance to continue. This is not the case. The US government has been (past tense) destroyed from within by Russian agents. What you're witnessing in Iran is the END GAME of a successful plot to destroy US hegemony.

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                        • wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social

                          @futurebird You are assuming that there is a functional organization actually running our government and that they intend for this particular method of governance to continue. This is not the case. The US government has been (past tense) destroyed from within by Russian agents. What you're witnessing in Iran is the END GAME of a successful plot to destroy US hegemony.

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                          @wyatt_h_knott

                          I think that's giving Russia too much credit.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            @wyatt_h_knott

                            I think that's giving Russia too much credit.

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                            @futurebird I do not. Putin has worked to corrupt Trump directly, along with many other people actually in Trump's government. THere was a multi-million dollar propaganda campaign that went along with it, repeatedly documented. The fact that other chaos actors, like Musk, jumped onboard, does not mean that this was a successful operation by the FSB that went wildly better than even they expected. No one thought Americans were this stupid, but here we are.

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                            • wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social

                              @futurebird I do not. Putin has worked to corrupt Trump directly, along with many other people actually in Trump's government. THere was a multi-million dollar propaganda campaign that went along with it, repeatedly documented. The fact that other chaos actors, like Musk, jumped onboard, does not mean that this was a successful operation by the FSB that went wildly better than even they expected. No one thought Americans were this stupid, but here we are.

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                              @wyatt_h_knott

                              The Russians are telling Iran where all our troops are. Bring this up to anyone from the admin and they'll snap at you.

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