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Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size.

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  • mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsM mgorny@social.treehouse.systems

    @atoponce,

    > nano
    > 4 GB

    I'm not going to ask.

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    @mgorny @atoponce

    > If the user deletes it, Chrome re-downloads it.

    Please google, give me back the money I spent on roaming to download this. They should be sued for this crap at this point, but of course we live in free country(/ies) and of course The Law will be executed justly?... right? πŸ™‚

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    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

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      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

      Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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      @atoponce@fosstodon.org it is not really clear to me where the file named "weights.bin" is (eventually) located. Also, which is/are the parameter/s for enabling/disabling this feature. tia.

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      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

        Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

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        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

        Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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        @atoponce Okay, so how do we disable all Chrome AI on a Windows box? The article says it can be done, but not how.

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        • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

          @atoponce Okay, so how do we disable all Chrome AI on a Windows box? The article says it can be done, but not how.

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          @msbellows I believe the toggle is chrome://settings/system "On-device AI".

          I can't confirm this though, as in my testing on Linux, I haven't been able to locate the "weights.bin" download and no directory size supports that 4 GB download.

          So either I haven't waited long enough to download it (it's been over an hour at this point), or it's not applicable to Linux.

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          • 6al@www.foxyhole.io6 6al@www.foxyhole.io

            @atoponce@fosstodon.org it is not really clear to me where the file named "weights.bin" is (eventually) located. Also, which is/are the parameter/s for enabling/disabling this feature. tia.

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            @6al AppData/Local/Google/Chrome/UserData/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ is the directory.

            I believe chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI is the toggle for this, but I can't confirm as I haven't seen the download reach my system yet.

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            • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

              Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

              Link Preview Image
              Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

              Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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              #8

              @atoponce A gigantic rant but no useful, actionable information. Just like the last time. I'm going to ignore this.

              Who's gonna tell him that Microsoft installs silently Copilot on Windows PCs?

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              • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                Link Preview Image
                Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

                Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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                @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                On the plus side, looks like it's smaller on Linux:

                find ~ \
                  -type f \
                  -name "weights.bin" 2> /dev/null | \
                xargs stat -c '%s' | \
                awk '{
                  sum += $1
                } END {
                  printf "%.2f GiB\n", sum / (1024^3)
                }'
                2.67 GiB

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                • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                  @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                  On the plus side, looks like it's smaller on Linux:

                  find ~ \
                    -type f \
                    -name "weights.bin" 2> /dev/null | \
                  xargs stat -c '%s' | \
                  awk '{
                    sum += $1
                  } END {
                    printf "%.2f GiB\n", sum / (1024^3)
                  }'
                  2.67 GiB

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                  @ferricoxide I still haven't seen it show up in my home dir. What's the directory path for you?

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                  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                    @ferricoxide I still haven't seen it show up in my home dir. What's the directory path for you?

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                    @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                    ${HOME}/.config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/2025.8.21.1028/weights.bin

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                    • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                      @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                      ${HOME}/.config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/2025.8.21.1028/weights.bin

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                      @ferricoxide Thanks. It appears to be ~/.var/app/com.google.Chrome/config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ for me as I have it installed via Flatpak, but the weights.bin file hasn't showed up yet.

                      I wonder if Flatpak is getting in the way here, or if it's getting installed somewhere else.

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                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                        Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

                        Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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                        @atoponce So outside of uninstalling Chrome, what's the solution here?
                        And does it affect other Chrone-based browsers?

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                        • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

                          @atoponce So outside of uninstalling Chrome, what's the solution here?
                          And does it affect other Chrone-based browsers?

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                          @faduda A possible solution might be toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI, although I haven't been able to confirm, as the 4 GB weights.bin file hasn't shown up on my install yet.

                          And no, this is strictly Google Chrome browser bloat. It doesn't affect Chromium, Edge, Brave, or any of the other Chromium forks as I understand it.

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                            @0461fcbecc4c3374439932d6b8f11269ccdb7cc973ad7a50ae362db135a474dd @atoponce

                            Your sarcasm is noted. But it's also misplaced. In the article, the author points out that the obvious AI entry points in the browser (the toolbar AI button and the omnibar) don't even use the local model. They still send your queries to Google.

                            So you've got a ton of wasted bandwidth and storage space, no consent, no user action, no respect for user preferences (eg: deleting the file), and no privacy benefit because they route everything you type through the Google cloud anyway.
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                              @0461fcbecc4c3374439932d6b8f11269ccdb7cc973ad7a50ae362db135a474dd @atoponce I'll allow that it's clickbait (most every tech news article is these days). But how is it misinformation?
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                              • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                @ferricoxide Thanks. It appears to be ~/.var/app/com.google.Chrome/config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ for me as I have it installed via Flatpak, but the weights.bin file hasn't showed up yet.

                                I wonder if Flatpak is getting in the way here, or if it's getting installed somewhere else.

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                                @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                No clue. I only looked in
                                ~ because the only other locations my user would be able to write to would be /tmp or /var/tmp (which would be a bad place for Chrome to try to write to since those tend to be smaller partitions than /home normally is (whether /home is a standalone partition or part of `/)

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                                • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                  Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

                                  Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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                                  @atoponce I can confirm this on my PC. I am removing Google Chrome now.

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                                  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                    Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

                                    Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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                                    @atoponce Time for #degoogle and #diday !

                                    #Google

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                                    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

                                      Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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                                      @atoponce Seems like an easy fix.

                                      "The only ways to make the deletion stick are to disable Chrome's AI features through chrome://flags or enterprise policy tooling that home users do not generally have, or to uninstall Chrome entirely "

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                                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                        Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. β€” That Privacy Guy!

                                        Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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                                        @atoponce what about Chromium?

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                                        • johnkavs@mastodon.ieJ johnkavs@mastodon.ie

                                          @atoponce what about Chromium?

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                                          @johnkavs It's unaffected. This is only Google Chrome bloat.

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