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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @ignova @crow

    exactly. there is a range of normal posts and what people consider that to be obviously has large grey areas

    but then there are also some demands for care and concern that are so absurd and extreme it is not possible for anyone well intentioned and sincere to even remotely adhere to them

    some people just want a giant CW on every single post in existence apparently

    or rather, they are controlling busybodies who get off on gatekeeping

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    @benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

    I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some πŸ‘‰πŸΌadult responsibilityπŸ‘ˆπŸΌ for what they see online.

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    • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

      @benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

      I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some πŸ‘‰πŸΌadult responsibilityπŸ‘ˆπŸΌ for what they see online.

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      @ApostateEnglishman @ignova @crow

      πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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      • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

        @benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

        I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some πŸ‘‰πŸΌadult responsibilityπŸ‘ˆπŸΌ for what they see online.

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        @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce @ignova @crow

        This is something I've always remarked on Mastodon.

        Each one of us has the power to curate our own timelines to our needs. I've had extensive muted word lists in the past when I was feeling particularly sensitive.

        Only thing I didn't like was when people skirted around words, so the muting didn't work (example: saying "Orange Turd" instead of "Donald Trump", or not clarifying anywhere).

        I still didn't go around telling people what to post.

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        • fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.socialF fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.social

          @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce @ignova @crow

          This is something I've always remarked on Mastodon.

          Each one of us has the power to curate our own timelines to our needs. I've had extensive muted word lists in the past when I was feeling particularly sensitive.

          Only thing I didn't like was when people skirted around words, so the muting didn't work (example: saying "Orange Turd" instead of "Donald Trump", or not clarifying anywhere).

          I still didn't go around telling people what to post.

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          @fruitcakesareyum @ApostateEnglishman @ignova @crow βœ…

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            drama!

            i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

            i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

            i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

            certainly some are sincere

            but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

            gore? absolutely CW

            but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

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            @benroyce

            I've complained about this many times ... Hugz

            Giggles

            Please don't block me ... I'm 71% brat ... Giggles

            I totally agree with you too

            Hugz & xXx

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            • melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.onlineM melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.online

              @benroyce

              I've complained about this many times ... Hugz

              Giggles

              Please don't block me ... I'm 71% brat ... Giggles

              I totally agree with you too

              Hugz & xXx

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              @MelissaBearTrix

              {insert longwinded argument here}

              {on second thought, scratch that, just πŸ™Œ }

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @MelissaBearTrix

                {insert longwinded argument here}

                {on second thought, scratch that, just πŸ™Œ }

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                @benroyce

                Hugz ... Knocking head .... Yes

                Hugz & xXx

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  drama!

                  i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

                  i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

                  i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

                  certainly some are sincere

                  but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

                  gore? absolutely CW

                  but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

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                  @benroyce content warnings started as an empathetic, human consideration. But like anything else, it doesn't take long for them to be co-opted and watered down to meaninglessness by the marketing machine.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @magicalleatherbear

                    and you can see me in the replies angry at people calling for a CW on the post

                    we *need* to get the word out. that overrules some sensitivities that are far from the standard boilerplate sensitivities that absolutely call for a CW

                    in fact i would think that people who have been victims of police brutality, whatever their sensitivity to such content, would agree with us that that is the right approach

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                    @benroyce I would hope the fediverse of all places would encourage us to expose these atrocities.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @msbellows @ignova @crow

                      i see what you're saying. double the text, double the bandwidth. make mastodon traffic look huge! (/s)

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                      @benroyce @msbellows @ignova @crow with that CW I expected some serious sh*t in your toot πŸ˜‚.

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                      • gobsmacked@mas.toG gobsmacked@mas.to

                        @benroyce
                        You do get that the word abuse itself is a memory trigger for abused people who don't like to be triggered by some news - no matter how valid or important it is?
                        If you get that, you understand that CW isn't there to censor, but to be nice and to make life better for certain people. That's part of why people use the Fediverse and don't use Twitter.

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                        @gobsmacked @benroyce I agree that authoritarianism and political violence should not be covered up. But I’m not convinced that there’s a dichotomy between denying or covering up fascist acts and broadcasting fascist acts to everyone. Does every person need to know the details of fascist acts? I would like to allow people to be able to opt out of reading or viewing material that they personally deem to be distressing, as much as possible and acknowledging that it might not be possible for an individual to avoid seeing every thing that is distressing to them.
                        Personally I think hashtags and filters work better for this purpose, as the receiver can opt out reasonably easily, but I think that the Fediverse has settled in content warnings as a default method.

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                        • ignova@mstdn.caI ignova@mstdn.ca

                          @benroyce @crow i think there is a significant and unjustified shifting of blame going on when people say that normal posts have 'caused' panic attacks, nightmares, and so on.

                          non-extreme posts are not the primary cause of mental health tailspins. a picture of a sandwich does not 'cause' someone to spiral into an eating disorder relapse. if something so innocuous sets that person off, they were already on the brink, and it's unfair to blame the sandwich poster for severe mental health issues that were actually caused by something else.

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                          @ignova @benroyce @crow

                          If I can prevent setting a person off by adding a CW, I'll gladly do that~

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                          • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                            @benroyce Man, I am sick to death of people trying to enforce CWs. Responsible adults do NOT expect others to placate their sensibilities/fears/etc.

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                            @alexpsmith @benroyce

                            So anyone trying to enforce CWs is doing that because of *their own* sensibilities/fears/etc., you think

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @benroyce @crow

                              The simple response is to block them. If someone tries to tell you how to use Mastodon just block them.

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                              @mastodonmigration @benroyce @crow

                              Blocking you now then...

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                              • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                                @mastodonmigration @benroyce @crow

                                Blocking you now then...

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                                @sibrosan @mastodonmigration @crow

                                why

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                                • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                                  @alexpsmith @benroyce

                                  So anyone trying to enforce CWs is doing that because of *their own* sensibilities/fears/etc., you think

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                                  @sibrosan @benroyce Yes, of course they are, though they may pretend it's for some public good (what rubbish). Certain exceptions might exist, such as belonging to a group with specific rules about what people can post and what would require a content warning. But that isn't the case here, of course.

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                                  • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                                    @alexpsmith @benroyce

                                    So anyone trying to enforce CWs is doing that because of *their own* sensibilities/fears/etc., you think

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                                    @sibrosan @alexpsmith

                                    and what right does anyone have to tell someone else how to CW

                                    on the terms of gore or porn, yes

                                    on the terms of extreme sensitivities no. that doesn't mean someone won't be harmed. it means it is absolutely impossible to abide by ridiculous standards

                                    you may CW your own content as you like. on any rationale

                                    you have zero right to enforce this on others

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      drama!

                                      i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

                                      i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

                                      i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

                                      certainly some are sincere

                                      but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

                                      gore? absolutely CW

                                      but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

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                                      @benroyce

                                      I got so irritated by ridiculous CWs that I changed the settings in the control panel to disable them.

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                                      • miona@toot.lgbtM miona@toot.lgbt

                                        @ignova @benroyce @crow

                                        If I can prevent setting a person off by adding a CW, I'll gladly do that~

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                                        @miona @ignova @crow

                                        and nobody is saying you shouldn't

                                        you may CW your content however you like

                                        that is 100% your concern and your right

                                        what the issue is here is people trying to enforce their CW standards onto other people's posts

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                                        • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce

                                          I got so irritated by ridiculous CWs that I changed the settings in the control panel to disable them.

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                                          @riggbeck

                                          i do the same

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