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this is why i actually kind of oppose fully remote work.

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  • peter@thepit.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    this is why i actually kind of oppose fully remote work. i understand that if you're established in your career and have a family, it's great for you, but that's because remote work wasn't a thing when you were coming up, so your career has already benefited from the advantages of working in an office. remote work is **really** bad for people who are just starting careers. https://www.zacsweers.dev/forklifts-require-training/

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      this is why i actually kind of oppose fully remote work. i understand that if you're established in your career and have a family, it's great for you, but that's because remote work wasn't a thing when you were coming up, so your career has already benefited from the advantages of working in an office. remote work is **really** bad for people who are just starting careers. https://www.zacsweers.dev/forklifts-require-training/

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      imo the real reason people (especially Americans) hate going to the office is their cities suck ass. yeah, if you have to drive an hour to your office, that does suck! when i was an intern here, i spent 20min on a bicycle riding through a beautiful landscape to get to my office and it was the best part of my day. for lunch, i had a dozen options. in the evening, i could stop for a beer on the way home. it was **great** and i look forward to doing it again.

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        imo the real reason people (especially Americans) hate going to the office is their cities suck ass. yeah, if you have to drive an hour to your office, that does suck! when i was an intern here, i spent 20min on a bicycle riding through a beautiful landscape to get to my office and it was the best part of my day. for lunch, i had a dozen options. in the evening, i could stop for a beer on the way home. it was **great** and i look forward to doing it again.

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        (also, "the office" as a built space often sucks, they can definitely improve upon that, but that's a fixable problem)

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          imo the real reason people (especially Americans) hate going to the office is their cities suck ass. yeah, if you have to drive an hour to your office, that does suck! when i was an intern here, i spent 20min on a bicycle riding through a beautiful landscape to get to my office and it was the best part of my day. for lunch, i had a dozen options. in the evening, i could stop for a beer on the way home. it was **great** and i look forward to doing it again.

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          @peter I try to get to the office once a week at least, and it's the day I also dedicate to do errands thereafter. Now, my office is 45+ minutes away, door to door, on public transit and foot, but I'd go more often if it was closer and if I could do it on 15 minutes on foot I would certainly reconsider going every day.

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            (also, "the office" as a built space often sucks, they can definitely improve upon that, but that's a fixable problem)

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            god, this is so fucking true, it's so good to see someone finally saying it. as a "junior" (ie - someone who will probably never find a job in software lol) this is why i absolutely avoid applying to jobs that indicate you will be required to use AI. what's the point? your job as a junior is to learn, and AI doesn't do that.

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              this is why i actually kind of oppose fully remote work. i understand that if you're established in your career and have a family, it's great for you, but that's because remote work wasn't a thing when you were coming up, so your career has already benefited from the advantages of working in an office. remote work is **really** bad for people who are just starting careers. https://www.zacsweers.dev/forklifts-require-training/

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              @peter yeah, I'm totally on board with this. Virtual has benefits for sure and at this point in my career, I prefer it, but earlier I really wish I had a team and someone senior to show me how stuff worked. Granted, this would only be true if you have a good team, but all things being equal it would have been nice to not need to learn everything the hard way.

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                this is why i actually kind of oppose fully remote work. i understand that if you're established in your career and have a family, it's great for you, but that's because remote work wasn't a thing when you were coming up, so your career has already benefited from the advantages of working in an office. remote work is **really** bad for people who are just starting careers. https://www.zacsweers.dev/forklifts-require-training/

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                @peter I would agree and add that the problem is that many offices don't really have a policy at all. Or, if they do, it's loosely managed. Apropos, my office has a gym, so I go in at least twice a week.

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                  this is why i actually kind of oppose fully remote work. i understand that if you're established in your career and have a family, it's great for you, but that's because remote work wasn't a thing when you were coming up, so your career has already benefited from the advantages of working in an office. remote work is **really** bad for people who are just starting careers. https://www.zacsweers.dev/forklifts-require-training/

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                  @peter @ElyseMGrasso my days in office are spent mostly sitting with my juniors for this reason

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