Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them.
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@ClickyMcTicker @lizzard @KatLS @cwebber My AP English teacher had a unit on logical fallacies and how to detect them. The science teachers (especially at AP level) were pretty consistent at teaching how to approach problems critically and not just plug numbers into an equation. All of this in a bland, middle-class public (USA) high school that spent way too much on football and not enough on teachers. Then again, that was also almost 40 years ago.
@dpnash @ClickyMcTicker @lizzard @cwebber I was likewise lucky in the 80s to have at least a few teachers that did this work. Mr. Jayne was the best history teacher ever🩷
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber It’s compounded by prior generations of decreasing education in arts and humanities, leading to adults (parents) who themselves did not learn creative thinking, ethics, or different cultures. I remember 20 years ago a comp sci professor complaining that his university was churning out tech grads with terrible communication skills. Those are now the “45 year olds” whose abilities atrophy “but could recover”. Their kids didn’t stand a chance against AI.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber I filed this under "Interesting if true". I'd love to believe it.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
Worrying…
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@PattyHanson that's not really the same thing. Checks have been getting rarer and rarer for decades. I haven't seen a check in almost 20 years. Something that was important for you to understand when you were younger just isn't true for your grandson. Your son probably hasn't needed to use a check for a long time either and therefore teaching his kids about them just never came up. He's not failing because he didn't deliberately sit them down and explain what a check is.
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@ClickyMcTicker @KatLS @cwebber many teachers try. I'm not so sure about the system as a whole. I'm not even thinking about the US here, I'm not from there. Just as a general class education thing.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
Considering that the humans are doing an absolutely terrible job, I figure the AI systems can at least be measured....
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber Algorithmic complacency kills curiosity and eventually free will.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber i saw that the other day. I found the author's aside about how they use it to summarize "hundreds" of papers a bit alarming.
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@ai6yr @cwebber When mentoring students I often get the question - how do you figure things out so quickly.
Then I tell them that I've been messing with hardware and software since I was in my early teens - and I made tons of (innocent) mistakes.
When you get to be an adult you then know how to approach complex systems where you might not have this much margin.
Much of it is heuristics. Offloading heuristics (despite biases) is a VERY BAD IDEA.
@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber Everything I ever did for a job was noticing patterns and applying them in new situations.
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@cwebber i saw that the other day. I found the author's aside about how they use it to summarize "hundreds" of papers a bit alarming.
@aeva @cwebber yes, he seems way too optimistic about the situation of "adults", himself included, using this technology.
Meanwhile, my university is making LLMs available for students on its platforms with the reasoning, quote:
"The available tools are intended to be used responsibly and treated as support in the process of acquiring knowledge and developing one’s own skills."
... and I want to eat my hat. Students supposed to develop their research skill are sąbotaged by the university.
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@cwebber i saw that the other day. I found the author's aside about how they use it to summarize "hundreds" of papers a bit alarming.
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@PattyHanson that's not really the same thing. Checks have been getting rarer and rarer for decades. I haven't seen a check in almost 20 years. Something that was important for you to understand when you were younger just isn't true for your grandson. Your son probably hasn't needed to use a check for a long time either and therefore teaching his kids about them just never came up. He's not failing because he didn't deliberately sit them down and explain what a check is.
@aatch @PattyHanson i went my entire life without seeing a paper check until i moved to the US
i'm in my 40s
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@aatch @PattyHanson i went my entire life without seeing a paper check until i moved to the US
i'm in my 40s
@eniko @aatch @PattyHanson
Mischievously, I suggest that the failure is of the cheque writer, who hasn’t kept up his education enough to know how to do a bank transfer.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber Being forced to use it, it feels different
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@aatch @PattyHanson i went my entire life without seeing a paper check until i moved to the US
i'm in my 40s
I'm of a similar age, and likewise didn't grow up in the US, but I did see checks occasionally used until I was maybe 10yo?
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@eniko @aatch @PattyHanson
Mischievously, I suggest that the failure is of the cheque writer, who hasn’t kept up his education enough to know how to do a bank transfer.@KimSJ @eniko @aatch As a grandmother and the check writer, I choose not to gift via bank transfer or PayPal or any of the other modern methods to transfer money. When a kid opens a birthday card expecting money, they don't get the same excitement from a proof of bank transfer that they do when they see cash. Turns out, checks aren't that exciting either.
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@emi @eniko @cwebber there's also the problem (which iirc the author overlooks) which is what happens when someone repeatedly internalizes noise that statistically resembles information. even if you have the skill to theoretically spot a specific inaccuracy, what happens when you read misinformation restated hundreds of different ways? what happens if you repeatedly scan it without much thought because you're in a hurry?
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@emi @eniko @cwebber there's also the problem (which iirc the author overlooks) which is what happens when someone repeatedly internalizes noise that statistically resembles information. even if you have the skill to theoretically spot a specific inaccuracy, what happens when you read misinformation restated hundreds of different ways? what happens if you repeatedly scan it without much thought because you're in a hurry?
