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People cannot be trusted to use "megabyte" as a word.

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    Maybe I should state this as a serious proposal, taking @clarfonthey's suggestion for an alternate infix.

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    The SI unit prefixes kilo-, mega-, giga-, and so forth refer exclusively to powers of 1,000 = 10³, while the ISO/IEC binary unit prefixes kibi-, mebi-, gibi-, and so forth refer exclusively to powers of 1,024 = 2¹⁰. In cases where historical confusions exist between SI and ISO/IEC prefixes, "kide," "mede-," "gide-" and so forth may be used as synonyms to emphasize SI decimal prefixes.

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    @xgranade @clarfonthey

    SI Decimal measures of length thus always recognize the goddess demeter

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    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

      Maybe I should state this as a serious proposal, taking @clarfonthey's suggestion for an alternate infix.

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      The SI unit prefixes kilo-, mega-, giga-, and so forth refer exclusively to powers of 1,000 = 10³, while the ISO/IEC binary unit prefixes kibi-, mebi-, gibi-, and so forth refer exclusively to powers of 1,024 = 2¹⁰. In cases where historical confusions exist between SI and ISO/IEC prefixes, "kide," "mede-," "gide-" and so forth may be used as synonyms to emphasize SI decimal prefixes.

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      In cases where no such confusion exists, SI unit prefixes must always be preferred to synonyms that emphasize decimal bases. This nomenclature is not intended, and should not be used, to replace or supplant any SI standards. Synonyms for SI decimal unit prefixes must only be used when historical confusions exist due to improper use of SI nomenclature.

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      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

        In cases where no such confusion exists, SI unit prefixes must always be preferred to synonyms that emphasize decimal bases. This nomenclature is not intended, and should not be used, to replace or supplant any SI standards. Synonyms for SI decimal unit prefixes must only be used when historical confusions exist due to improper use of SI nomenclature.

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        @xgranade

        As in, hard drive manufacturer promotional material should advertise storage volume in gidebytes and tedebytes for truth in advertising

        I like this proposal

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        • trochee@dair-community.socialT trochee@dair-community.social

          @xgranade

          As in, hard drive manufacturer promotional material should advertise storage volume in gidebytes and tedebytes for truth in advertising

          I like this proposal

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          @trochee Like, in the ideal world, the binary prefixes would be used widely enough that only historical documents and hard drive packaging still uses the decimal prefixes, but as long as people throw around "mega" to mean 2^20...

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          • nelaquetan@loud.computerN nelaquetan@loud.computer

            @virtulis @xgranade kikibytes and boubabytes

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            @nelaquetan @virtulis @xgranade Kikibytes (kB) have more 1s than 0s; boubabytes (bB) have more 0s than 1s.

            To avoid confusion surrounding bytes with equal counts of ones and zeros, the standard byte is defined to be a nonet, rather than the legacy octet.

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            • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

              People cannot be trusted to use "megabyte" as a word. Too many people use it to refer to 1024 and not to the correct SI meaning of "mega."

              This can be solved by introducing "kidi," "medi," "gidi," and so forth meaning "kilo (decimal)," "mega (decimal)" and so forth. These new prefixes are completely synonymous with kilo, mega, giga, and so forth, but have the advantage that sloppy developers from the 80s haven't misused them yet.

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              @xgranade TIL "mebibyte" is a thing 🙄

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              • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                People cannot be trusted to use "megabyte" as a word. Too many people use it to refer to 1024 and not to the correct SI meaning of "mega."

                This can be solved by introducing "kidi," "medi," "gidi," and so forth meaning "kilo (decimal)," "mega (decimal)" and so forth. These new prefixes are completely synonymous with kilo, mega, giga, and so forth, but have the advantage that sloppy developers from the 80s haven't misused them yet.

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                @xgranade

                I was entirely unconvinced by KiB as a unit, but I enjoy writing MiB and GiB as if they're serious terms.

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