Just two days ago I was talking to a friend wondering about how much of Mastodon that is hosted on masto host.
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yeah looks like lurk is not using masto host.
and it also was only 3 databases and was fixed within 2 hours, but it was a bit of a funny timing and made me think more about this whole decentralization thingy.
@lislegaard yeah defo i mean when i briefly looked at self-hosting (before i realised how much of a headache it can be) i thought about using one of those services, but you're right - if enough people use them there's that (now) obvious drawback of half the fed going down at once
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@lislegaard yeah defo i mean when i briefly looked at self-hosting (before i realised how much of a headache it can be) i thought about using one of those services, but you're right - if enough people use them there's that (now) obvious drawback of half the fed going down at once
yeah it is kinda too bad that these things are hard enough to prevent "everyone" from having a couple of raspberry pi's or something hosting their stuff. it think that could have been fun.
i guess there are still stuff like this in the darker web with p2p networks etc. but for the social and public things.
or people like yunohost trying to make it happen, or at least a possibility.
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yeah it is kinda too bad that these things are hard enough to prevent "everyone" from having a couple of raspberry pi's or something hosting their stuff. it think that could have been fun.
i guess there are still stuff like this in the darker web with p2p networks etc. but for the social and public things.
or people like yunohost trying to make it happen, or at least a possibility.
@lislegaard it's all the blocking and stuff, it would do my head in trying to weed out bad actors (or i'd flip and go mad with the banhammer like tony montana)
i'd love something like signal but federated - if that was even possible, not at all well up on the technicals around this
kind of granular levels of encryption or something, idk, what am i even saying i have no clue
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@lislegaard it's all the blocking and stuff, it would do my head in trying to weed out bad actors (or i'd flip and go mad with the banhammer like tony montana)
i'd love something like signal but federated - if that was even possible, not at all well up on the technicals around this
kind of granular levels of encryption or something, idk, what am i even saying i have no clue
this makes me also think about how the thing i am missing on fedi vs facebook / insta is the sort of soft bridge from following someone, to chatting with them.
like i meet a friend-of-a-friend at a gig. we talk a bit, you add them, then all of a sudden they are also available in your messaging app for chatting. there are also problems with this of course, but in general it is an excellent way to get to talk a bit more to someone who you might not see again for a while.
also f** meta
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this makes me also think about how the thing i am missing on fedi vs facebook / insta is the sort of soft bridge from following someone, to chatting with them.
like i meet a friend-of-a-friend at a gig. we talk a bit, you add them, then all of a sudden they are also available in your messaging app for chatting. there are also problems with this of course, but in general it is an excellent way to get to talk a bit more to someone who you might not see again for a while.
also f** meta
@lislegaard @sean_ae I think one of the things I enjoy about Fedi, compared to the popular stuff, is not having those instant connections on a connected messaging app. If I meet someone and dig them enough to want to be their friend, I'll just give them my Signal (or WhatsApp if they are that kind of person).
I think the Fedi works, at least for me, because its slower and you don't feel all these pressures to be ON all the time- especially when people you barely know blow up your DMs
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this makes me also think about how the thing i am missing on fedi vs facebook / insta is the sort of soft bridge from following someone, to chatting with them.
like i meet a friend-of-a-friend at a gig. we talk a bit, you add them, then all of a sudden they are also available in your messaging app for chatting. there are also problems with this of course, but in general it is an excellent way to get to talk a bit more to someone who you might not see again for a while.
also f** meta
@lislegaard i mean yeah i guess, but insta seems to make people depressed and fb makes them fight
like idk if it has any lasting value being in touch with people if that ends up happening, why even bother
(i do have some privilege here though cos i'm usually findable somehow, even if people are just emailing my agent/label or whatever)
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@lislegaard @sean_ae I think one of the things I enjoy about Fedi, compared to the popular stuff, is not having those instant connections on a connected messaging app. If I meet someone and dig them enough to want to be their friend, I'll just give them my Signal (or WhatsApp if they are that kind of person).
I think the Fedi works, at least for me, because its slower and you don't feel all these pressures to be ON all the time- especially when people you barely know blow up your DMs
yeah i am totally open to the view that the friction being a feature not a bug.
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@lislegaard @sean_ae I think one of the things I enjoy about Fedi, compared to the popular stuff, is not having those instant connections on a connected messaging app. If I meet someone and dig them enough to want to be their friend, I'll just give them my Signal (or WhatsApp if they are that kind of person).
I think the Fedi works, at least for me, because its slower and you don't feel all these pressures to be ON all the time- especially when people you barely know blow up your DMs
@incentive @lislegaard yeah this is similar to how i roll on here, i prob don't need 'fedi signal' at all
(it is a bit leaky here though so i'm not gonna put my signal id in a dm, rather post an email alias - there are levels :))
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this makes me also think about how the thing i am missing on fedi vs facebook / insta is the sort of soft bridge from following someone, to chatting with them.
like i meet a friend-of-a-friend at a gig. we talk a bit, you add them, then all of a sudden they are also available in your messaging app for chatting. there are also problems with this of course, but in general it is an excellent way to get to talk a bit more to someone who you might not see again for a while.
also f** meta
@lislegaard @sean_ae Selfhosting is quite easy with GoToSocial. I have an alternate account (which doesn't get used much) on an instance running on a computer at home. I'm subscribing to a block list, so there's no hassle with that. Whenever the list updates, new blocks get added as drafts, and I can decide to block or not. You can also accept all blocks without going through drafts.
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@incentive @lislegaard yeah this is similar to how i roll on here, i prob don't need 'fedi signal' at all
(it is a bit leaky here though so i'm not gonna put my signal id in a dm, rather post an email alias - there are levels :))
@sean_ae @lislegaard I learned this the hard way. I have a python script that runs every few mins and reposts my stuff to Bsky/Threads- and I didn't realize DMs were in the same box as posts (so all my DMs were sending to Bluesky/Threads as posts....)
