Observations from a Canadian visiting New Zealand:

[lynnd@mstdn.ca]

@scotdowser Tim Horton’s coffee used to be really good until they sold out to the American Wendy’s outfit and went with a cheaper blend (of course they did). MacDonalds them swooped in and got the original Timmie’s blend. Now they’re owned by a Brazilian outfit, which would lead one to hope that the coffee would get better, but nope, Timmie’s coffee still sucks, but it’s relatively cheap, and their marketing is great. Anyone I know who actually likes coffee won’t touch the stuff. @sundogplanets @grb090423

[ada@blahaj.zone]

@mattdm@hachyderm.io @sundogplanets@mastodon.social @rdm@aus.social Thankfully, it doesn't enable true flight. But they can coast above the water for quite some distance! It's a scary sight

[thefathippy@mastodon.world]

@ada

That last one's a cockatoo warning—those beaks'll chomp ya!

@sundogplanets @rdm

[arcadiagt5@mstdn.social]

@prl @rdm @sundogplanets @davidtheeviloverlord @prk Indeed, as a kiwi housemate once put it to me: In Oz it is the ecology that tries to kill you, in NZ it is the geology that tries to kill you.

[sundogplanets@mastodon.social]

Today I learned that New Zealand "supper" seems to be more like what I'd imagine hobbits eat for meal number 6 (cheese, crackers, fruit, cookies) than Saskatchewan supper (the full meal you eat at the end of the day after a lot of hard farm labour)

[newstik@social.heise.de]

@sundogplanets Oh no, I hope you have emergency rations to save you from getting hangry!

[grb090423@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets

I wonder if they eat a full dinner at lunchtime?

[ambientspace@cloudisland.nz]

@sundogplanets watch out for being invited to tea. Try and determine if it is full meal, or just a cup of tea (speaking from personal experience).

[theeddieshow@beige.party]

@sundogplanets

"Kia ora!" Dying to share a clip here that convinced me Aotearoa/NZ is paradise, esp for foodies. May I?

[sundogplanets@mastodon.social]

@TheEddieShow of course!!

[theeddieshow@beige.party]

@sundogplanets

Enjoy!

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[sundogplanets@mastodon.social]

@TheEddieShow Saving to my "soothing food-making videos" stash!!

[theeddieshow@beige.party]

@sundogplanets

In-flight, fond memories of your new favorite place.

[mattwilcox@mstdn.social]

@sundogplanets If that is supper, what is a later night snack pre-bed called?

[ingram@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets Sask supper sounds like 'tea' in NZ.

[ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca]

@mattwilcox @sundogplanets That would be a "bedtime snack".

(And as a Canadian, the idea that "tea" is the main evening meal definitely is hard to wrap my head around. While "tea" is not commonly used here as part of the daily meal schedule, the primary definition would be a beverage and a light bite mid afternoon.)

[mattwilcox@mstdn.social]

@AmeliasBrain @sundogplanets Interesting. In the Midlands of the UK we use “breakfast, dinner, tea” for the three main meals. But other bits of the country would use “breakfast, lunch, dinner”.

It’s a mess of a language.

[ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca]

@mattwilcox It is. But the confusion is not even unique to the English language. In French, dîner can also be either mid-day or evening meal depending on what part of the world you are in. (In Canadian French, souper is more commonly used for the evening meal.)

[nxskok@cupoftea.social]

@sundogplanets I'm going to guess that NZ terms came from a different part of the UK than Saskatchewan, and in NZ it may be something like:

- supper = small snack before bed
- dinner/tea = main evening meal around 6pm or similar.

I remember hearing "supper" used in BC to describe the main evening meal, so that might be a Western Canadian thing. (Don't think I've heard it in Ontario.)

[alsopaisleycat@tenforward.social]

@nxskok

My sense is that it’s more about the timing of the agricultural to urban transition in Western Europe and the UK, and where and when the immigration flowed in relation to that.

Western Canadian usage can be quite different but my partner and I (both originally from BC) both grew up with supper as the usual evening meal while dinner was a formal event or a large midday meal among farm families.

BC had a very large wave of UK immigrants in the 1950s and early 1960s. In the early 1970s, over 40% of the adult BC population were UK immigrants. So, BC has quite a different history or English usage than elsewhere in Canada. Tea, or more specifically high tea, as a term for a late afternoon or early evening meal, was known and used among English expats but wasn’t as generally used.

English speakers who settled on the Prairies also were mostly directly from the UK, or in the case of southern Alberta and Saskatchewan, were failed farming pioneers recruited from the midwestern and prairie United States.

Ukrainians and other Eastern European settlers kept dinner as the large midday meal and supper as the evening meal. Two breakfasts were a thing.

Meanwhile, in Quebec ‘diner’ remains the midday meal and ‘souper’ the later evening one, and déjeuner is breakfast in the old European tradition — also the usage in Belgium and Switzerland — while in France it’s petit déjeuner, déjeuner then diner.

@sundogplanets