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  • golemwire@fosstodon.orgG golemwire@fosstodon.org

    @82mhz Huh, OK, mainly just pointing that out just in case you did some unusual processing to the video. It could just be my system; maybe my browser is using GPU-accelerated video decoding, and it's not working right over Nouveau + Nvidia? IDK.

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    @golemwire Could also be a problem with the CDN where the video is stored... I don't know.

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      @kauer
      It's the same on warm boot, yes.

      Holding shift during boot gives me a "stuck key" error, tapping F10 seems to skip whatever diagnostics are running and gets me straight to GRUB without the beeps.

      The message about "active protection" at the end seems to relate to a sensor which detects movement, maybe this one is faulty...

      @zhenech

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      • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        Any #Thinkpad experts here?

        I have an older L420 on which I installed LInux. After it gets to the bios and before it opens the bootloader it beeps a seemingly random number of times. I have counted anywhere from 5 to 13 beeps. After it's done with this, it boots normally.

        I've already flashed the latest bios and loaded the default values. No change.

        Any idea what this could be? I've looked at several websites which explain thinkpad beepcodes, but none mention this behavior.

        I checked the RAM and ran it with only one of the two installed modules, tested both and tested every slot, no change.

        (the last, higher, beep is me turning the computer back off)

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        @82mhz Not a ThinkPad-specific suggestion, but that sounds like a stuck key on the keyboard

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          @kauer
          Might give this a try.

          The computer was in a basement with intermittent high humidity, maybe something corroded on the board... but it seems to be some kind of hardware fault. @zhenech

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          • howtophil@oldbytes.spaceH howtophil@oldbytes.space

            @82mhz Not a ThinkPad-specific suggestion, but that sounds like a stuck key on the keyboard

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            @howtophil
            Might be, but then the OS runs perfectly. If a key is stuck I would expect some weird behaviour there...

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              @kauer
              Nah, I just removed the harddisk. Still beeps. So it's not GRUB...

              @zhenech

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                @kauer
                What does F10 do exactly?

                @zhenech

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                • howtophil@oldbytes.spaceH howtophil@oldbytes.space

                  @82mhz Not a ThinkPad-specific suggestion, but that sounds like a stuck key on the keyboard

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                  @howtophil @82mhz my thought too.
                  Unplug the internal keyboard and see if it continues.
                  Yeah makes no sense it’s not happening in OS but I’ve seen similar stuff happen on thinkpads caused by that..

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                    @kauer Yes, actually 🙂

                    @zhenech

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                    • colinstu@birdbutt.comC colinstu@birdbutt.com

                      @howtophil @82mhz my thought too.
                      Unplug the internal keyboard and see if it continues.
                      Yeah makes no sense it’s not happening in OS but I’ve seen similar stuff happen on thinkpads caused by that..

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                      @colinstu @howtophil
                      Guess I gotta start taking it apart, but I don't have the time and space right now, so this will have to wait a bit.
                      Thanks for your input though, I will check the keyboard connection!

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                      • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        @howtophil
                        Might be, but then the OS runs perfectly. If a key is stuck I would expect some weird behaviour there...

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                        @82mhz I suppose it depends on the key. I can hold the "Windows key" all day on my Linux desktop, and nothing happens

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                        • howtophil@oldbytes.spaceH howtophil@oldbytes.space

                          @82mhz I suppose it depends on the key. I can hold the "Windows key" all day on my Linux desktop, and nothing happens

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                          @howtophil Good point...

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                          • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @colinstu @howtophil
                            Guess I gotta start taking it apart, but I don't have the time and space right now, so this will have to wait a bit.
                            Thanks for your input though, I will check the keyboard connection!

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                            @colinstu It seems like you guys were right. I took it apart, disconnected the keyboard and the beeping stopped. The keyboard has a problem...

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                            • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @colinstu It seems like you guys were right. I took it apart, disconnected the keyboard and the beeping stopped. The keyboard has a problem...

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                              @82mhz @howtophil hopefully it's just a matter of cleaning the switches/keys perhaps.

                              Do any keys feel stiff or sticky or don't depress all the way etc?

                              Worst case scenario the keyboard could be replaced. At least it's nothing more serious!

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                              • colinstu@birdbutt.comC colinstu@birdbutt.com

                                @82mhz @howtophil hopefully it's just a matter of cleaning the switches/keys perhaps.

                                Do any keys feel stiff or sticky or don't depress all the way etc?

                                Worst case scenario the keyboard could be replaced. At least it's nothing more serious!

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                                @colinstu @howtophil
                                No the keys all feel fine. I booted it up again with the keyboard connected... this time no beeps, and an online keyboard test shows no keys permanently pressed. Maybe it was just a matter of cleaning and reseating the cable. Hopefully...
                                Einther way, thanks both of you for the hint! I wouldn't have guessed that it might be the keyboard...

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                                • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @colinstu @howtophil
                                  No the keys all feel fine. I booted it up again with the keyboard connected... this time no beeps, and an online keyboard test shows no keys permanently pressed. Maybe it was just a matter of cleaning and reseating the cable. Hopefully...
                                  Einther way, thanks both of you for the hint! I wouldn't have guessed that it might be the keyboard...

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                                  @82mhz @howtophil I may or may not have smashed the keyboard on a thinkpad after some very frustrating Windows sessions... a lot.

                                  (poor laptop. it all survived fine though... that is when I noticed that beeping happening tho and it felt way too familiar)

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                                  • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @colinstu @howtophil
                                    No the keys all feel fine. I booted it up again with the keyboard connected... this time no beeps, and an online keyboard test shows no keys permanently pressed. Maybe it was just a matter of cleaning and reseating the cable. Hopefully...
                                    Einther way, thanks both of you for the hint! I wouldn't have guessed that it might be the keyboard...

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                                    @82mhz @colinstu Reseating fixes so many things 🙂

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                                    • colinstu@birdbutt.comC colinstu@birdbutt.com

                                      @82mhz @howtophil I may or may not have smashed the keyboard on a thinkpad after some very frustrating Windows sessions... a lot.

                                      (poor laptop. it all survived fine though... that is when I noticed that beeping happening tho and it felt way too familiar)

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                                      @colinstu
                                      😄 thankfully these things are quite resilient

                                      @howtophil

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