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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

    ypsilenna@mastodon.greenY This user is from outside of this forum
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    @sarae I fav things I find nice, but they probably don't fit thematically with other things I boost/post. For example, I usually enjoy boosting cool photography and art. If I find someone bragging about their new shoes, I will give them a like because it's cool, but people who got used to the things I usually boost will scratch their heads trying to figure out why it's on their timeline.
    If someone has a problem with my like, I may as well mute them and give them nothing... 🫠

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    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
      wrote last edited by
      #70

      @sarae

      Favorites are part of the conversation. They are lovely. It's like saying 'good morning' or 'thanks'. It doesn't have to be transactional. It can just be nice.

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      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

        @DamonWakes I'm old enough that most of my use of Twitter was before it did that

        so I find the insistence that This Is The Way pretty weird

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        wrote last edited by
        #71

        @sarae Oh no. I faved this instead of retooting it and now it won't Do Numbers™️. Sorry about that.

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @sarae

          Favorites are part of the conversation. They are lovely. It's like saying 'good morning' or 'thanks'. It doesn't have to be transactional. It can just be nice.

          fu@libranet.deF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #72
          @mastodonmigration @sarae if we wanted transactional we'd be on nostr
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          • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

            @sarae Oh no. I faved this instead of retooting it and now it won't Do Numbers™️. Sorry about that.

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            #73

            @DamonWakes no worries it's doing more numbers than I really expected on a Sunday 😆

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            • fu@libranet.deF fu@libranet.de
              @mastodonmigration @sarae if we wanted transactional we'd be on nostr
              sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #74

              @fu @mastodonmigration I spend plenty of time selling my services

              this isn't a venue in which I do so

              well no, that's not completely true, I do advertise fundraising calendars for the Pacific Northwest Labor History Association most years

              but that's more of a volunteer thing

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #75

                Sara
                > it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post

                This is also just a very mastodon-centric view of things. It is neither inherently true, nor true on all existing platforms. It's just the way that Mastodon developers decided to implement things. On Lemmy, an up-vote increases the post/comment ranking and increases redistribution. On NodeBB, a like forces the server to retain the the post beyond the server's remote content purge threshold. Other platforms could do things different still, and likely already do.

                The fediverse isn't synonymous with Mastodon. It never was, and it never will be.

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                • kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK kichae@wanderingadventure.party

                  Sara
                  > it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post

                  This is also just a very mastodon-centric view of things. It is neither inherently true, nor true on all existing platforms. It's just the way that Mastodon developers decided to implement things. On Lemmy, an up-vote increases the post/comment ranking and increases redistribution. On NodeBB, a like forces the server to retain the the post beyond the server's remote content purge threshold. Other platforms could do things different still, and likely already do.

                  The fediverse isn't synonymous with Mastodon. It never was, and it never will be.

                  sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #76

                  @kichae ok! well you sure told me!

                  kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK penpencilbrush@mstdn.socialP 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                    @kichae ok! well you sure told me!

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                    #77

                    Sara No, I just added to what you said. I'm... not sure how to read your response.

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                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                      alan@mindly.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #78

                      @sarae Marking something as a favourite is saying "I like this"; boosting it is saying "I think this has value to the people who follow me." My guess is that people who say this find that people favourite their stuff much more often than boosting it.

                      That's a reflection on what they post, not on other users.

                      Trying to dictate how the platform gets used is futile. If they want more boosts, then maybe they should work on content that people feel is boost-worthy instead of trying to make it someone else's problem.

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                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                        elshara@www.mediacy.net
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                        #79

                        @nanowiz @sarae I don't get it either. don't post it if it's not meant to be shared.

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                        • shnooflebear@curly.catS shnooflebear@curly.cat

                          @sarae Sounds like the old "gaming the algorithm" mind set. Luckily, on Mastodon, things that are worth spreading, are spread, whether you fav it, or not.

                          fd93@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #80

                          @ShnoofleBear @sarae spreading for meta reflexivity purposes

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                          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                            sunguramy@flipping.rocksS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @sarae It lets me know it was seen, and I was heard. If you just scroll, there is zero interaction. I'm not here for that. Comment, boost, or leave a little star that means "hey, I see you" at the very least. Sometimes I post things and they get nothing, and that's honestly a bit depressing.

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                              #82

                              @sarae

                              for me, the key to social media is the boost. human virality, not algos. but favorites are about acknowledgement and appreciation. they are awesome.

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                              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                @kichae ok! well you sure told me!

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                                #83

                                @sarae That was a whole lotta mansplaining. 😆 I admire your restraint.

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                                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                  nev@flipping.rocksN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #84

                                  @sarae i'm so old i remember when "likes" on Twitter and Facebook didn't actually increase a post's visibility either because the timeline was strictly reverse chronological. i am 40 and apparently am the oldest person by far alive on earth, with amazing powers of memory that scientists are still trying to unravel

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                                  • nev@flipping.rocksN nev@flipping.rocks

                                    @sarae i'm so old i remember when "likes" on Twitter and Facebook didn't actually increase a post's visibility either because the timeline was strictly reverse chronological. i am 40 and apparently am the oldest person by far alive on earth, with amazing powers of memory that scientists are still trying to unravel

                                    superball@norcal.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #85

                                    @nev LOLLL. 👍🏼 I was so annoyed when they implemented that. My likes were supposed to be to the individual, not for the world to see! When I came to Mastodon, I breathed a sigh of relief about that!

                                    @sarae

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                                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                      @sarae

                                      Favorites are part of the conversation. They are lovely. It's like saying 'good morning' or 'thanks'. It doesn't have to be transactional. It can just be nice.

                                      donelias@mastodon.crD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #86

                                      @mastodonmigration favorites (and boosts) are used to fill explore timelines @sarae

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                                      • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

                                        @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

                                        in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

                                        I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

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                                        #87

                                        @moss @sarae @awawawa it's a great way to bridge the gap between "no one cares" and "no one knows what to say"
                                        The latter is a much easier truth to accept!

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                                        • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                          @sarae literally who says this

                                          I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                                          #88

                                          @schratze @sarae

                                          I've seen it a few times and I just ignore it. I like a lot of stuff, but wouldn't boost it all because if I do, I can't delegate at least 25% of my brain to putting forth my own nonsensical jabbering. 😛

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