seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
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@sarae this is fun to see because when I first joined fedi i saw things like "If all you do is boost things i will unfollow you"
@gloriouscow yeah I've seen that go by a couple times and I'm like, well I sure do hope you have fun somewhere else, then, neighbor
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@sarae It'll never stop being bizarre to me that Twitter turning faves into "retweets...but different" somehow trained people to consider that normal behaviour for that kind of button.
@DamonWakes I'm old enough that most of my use of Twitter was before it did that
so I find the insistence that This Is The Way pretty weird
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@sarae I often lurk on the /explore section (or it's called "Trending" in the UI/app mostly) and I think it maybe is based on likes? Or is it only based on boosts? Also - I basically hit like on everything I read. To say "I saw that! Post more!"
@malveus I get the feeling it weights boosts most heavily but I think (and conversation elsethread seems to support) that it also considers likes when populating that feed
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae when I find myself doom scrolling, I go to my favorites and look at all the kitties
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I fav things I find nice, but they probably don't fit thematically with other things I boost/post. For example, I usually enjoy boosting cool photography and art. If I find someone bragging about their new shoes, I will give them a like because it's cool, but people who got used to the things I usually boost will scratch their heads trying to figure out why it's on their timeline.
If someone has a problem with my like, I may as well mute them and give them nothing... 🫠 -
seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
Favorites are part of the conversation. They are lovely. It's like saying 'good morning' or 'thanks'. It doesn't have to be transactional. It can just be nice.
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@DamonWakes I'm old enough that most of my use of Twitter was before it did that
so I find the insistence that This Is The Way pretty weird
@sarae Oh no. I faved this instead of retooting it and now it won't Do Numbers
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Favorites are part of the conversation. They are lovely. It's like saying 'good morning' or 'thanks'. It doesn't have to be transactional. It can just be nice.
@mastodonmigration @sarae if we wanted transactional we'd be on nostr -
@sarae Oh no. I faved this instead of retooting it and now it won't Do Numbers
️. Sorry about that.@DamonWakes no worries it's doing more numbers than I really expected on a Sunday
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@mastodonmigration @sarae if we wanted transactional we'd be on nostr
@fu @mastodonmigration I spend plenty of time selling my services
this isn't a venue in which I do so
well no, that's not completely true, I do advertise fundraising calendars for the Pacific Northwest Labor History Association most years
but that's more of a volunteer thing
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
Sara
> it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your postThis is also just a very mastodon-centric view of things. It is neither inherently true, nor true on all existing platforms. It's just the way that Mastodon developers decided to implement things. On Lemmy, an up-vote increases the post/comment ranking and increases redistribution. On NodeBB, a like forces the server to retain the the post beyond the server's remote content purge threshold. Other platforms could do things different still, and likely already do.
The fediverse isn't synonymous with Mastodon. It never was, and it never will be.
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Sara
> it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your postThis is also just a very mastodon-centric view of things. It is neither inherently true, nor true on all existing platforms. It's just the way that Mastodon developers decided to implement things. On Lemmy, an up-vote increases the post/comment ranking and increases redistribution. On NodeBB, a like forces the server to retain the the post beyond the server's remote content purge threshold. Other platforms could do things different still, and likely already do.
The fediverse isn't synonymous with Mastodon. It never was, and it never will be.
@kichae ok! well you sure told me!
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@kichae ok! well you sure told me!
Sara No, I just added to what you said. I'm... not sure how to read your response.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae Marking something as a favourite is saying "I like this"; boosting it is saying "I think this has value to the people who follow me." My guess is that people who say this find that people favourite their stuff much more often than boosting it.
That's a reflection on what they post, not on other users.
Trying to dictate how the platform gets used is futile. If they want more boosts, then maybe they should work on content that people feel is boost-worthy instead of trying to make it someone else's problem.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
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@sarae Sounds like the old "gaming the algorithm" mind set. Luckily, on Mastodon, things that are worth spreading, are spread, whether you fav it, or not.
@ShnoofleBear @sarae spreading for meta reflexivity purposes
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae It lets me know it was seen, and I was heard. If you just scroll, there is zero interaction. I'm not here for that. Comment, boost, or leave a little star that means "hey, I see you" at the very least. Sometimes I post things and they get nothing, and that's honestly a bit depressing.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
for me, the key to social media is the boost. human virality, not algos. but favorites are about acknowledgement and appreciation. they are awesome.
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@kichae ok! well you sure told me!
@sarae That was a whole lotta mansplaining.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae i'm so old i remember when "likes" on Twitter and Facebook didn't actually increase a post's visibility either because the timeline was strictly reverse chronological. i am 40 and apparently am the oldest person by far alive on earth, with amazing powers of memory that scientists are still trying to unravel
