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  3. how hard do you have to fuck up posting to turn into a main character on *mastodon*.

how hard do you have to fuck up posting to turn into a main character on *mastodon*.

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    how hard do you have to fuck up posting to turn into a main character on *mastodon*.

    feralrobots@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @davidgerard was thinking earlier about the peculiar contempt a lot of BlueSky users have for fedi, & I think you've stumbled on one of its roots:

    It's much easier to be a main character, there.

    Even as every person who wants to be seen as sane will tell you 'being the main character is BAD', in their heart they still want it, & sense that it's harder on Fedi.

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    • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

      @davidgerard which of them? Because one of them demanding Mastodon make room for AI bros and explicit fascists is <checks notes> the official Mastodon non-profit's "senior product advisor."

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      @rootwyrm
      Someone outside this thread commented just now about how ironic it was that such a person so fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the fediverse.
      @davidgerard

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      • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

        @davidgerard which of them? Because one of them demanding Mastodon make room for AI bros and explicit fascists is <checks notes> the official Mastodon non-profit's "senior product advisor."

        reflex@retrogaming.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @rootwyrm @davidgerard Eugen is doing a heel turn now?

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          how hard do you have to fuck up posting to turn into a main character on *mastodon*.

          piebob@metasocial.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @davidgerard i do wonder how beandad would have played out over here...

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            #11

            @spacehobo @davidgerard
            yeah that's a solid point. I do sometimes have conversations, there, but for various reasons it's much more likely to go that way here.

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            • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @spacehobo @FeralRobots @davidgerard Hear, hear.

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              • wronglang@bayes.clubW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @spacehobo @FeralRobots @davidgerard gonna have to start calling the rest "para social media"

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                • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

                  @rootwyrm @davidgerard Eugen is doing a heel turn now?

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                  @reflex @davidgerard nope, Eugen started the other main character by telling him basically "I'm not the manager, dipshit."

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                  • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

                    @reflex @davidgerard nope, Eugen started the other main character by telling him basically "I'm not the manager, dipshit."

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                    @rootwyrm @davidgerard Yeah, my bad for not reading further down the 800+ posts of my timeline first lol. I purposefully stay away from here on weekends so monday is a bit confusing. My bad!

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                    • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

                      @rootwyrm @davidgerard Yeah, my bad for not reading further down the 800+ posts of my timeline first lol. I purposefully stay away from here on weekends so monday is a bit confusing. My bad!

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                      @reflex @davidgerard all good! The instigating incident:
                      https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/116357625749597464

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        how hard do you have to fuck up posting to turn into a main character on *mastodon*.

                        rycochet@furs.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @davidgerard 'Mastodon is doomed because I can't get people to pay attention to me and AI boosters!' *Monkeypaw finger curls*

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                        • rycochet@furs.socialR rycochet@furs.social

                          @davidgerard 'Mastodon is doomed because I can't get people to pay attention to me and AI boosters!' *Monkeypaw finger curls*

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                          @Rycochet @davidgerard πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                          • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

                            @reflex @davidgerard all good! The instigating incident:
                            https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/116357625749597464

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                            @rootwyrm @davidgerard A bit of a tangent, but the idea that "mastodon is hostile to AI" as though that's some odd thing when polls show the public is overwhelmingly hostile to AI leads these bros to question Mastodon/fedi and what needs to happen to change that sentiment, vs them asking the real question: Why do other social networks not demonstrate the hostility to AI that masto/fedi do given that the latter seems to align with public sentiment?

                            Ie: the complaint is the lack of manipulation.

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                            • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

                              @rootwyrm @davidgerard A bit of a tangent, but the idea that "mastodon is hostile to AI" as though that's some odd thing when polls show the public is overwhelmingly hostile to AI leads these bros to question Mastodon/fedi and what needs to happen to change that sentiment, vs them asking the real question: Why do other social networks not demonstrate the hostility to AI that masto/fedi do given that the latter seems to align with public sentiment?

                              Ie: the complaint is the lack of manipulation.

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                              @reflex @davidgerard to put an even finer point on it still, because it's very easy to:

                              Replace 'AI' with 'fascism' and they would be saying the same things. Replace it with 'Nazis' and no surprise, they are saying *exactly* that too. (But don't you dare call them Nazis!)

                              They love BSky because it platforms and defends bigots, terrorists, and Nazis and is at war with it's own users over it.

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                how hard do you have to fuck up posting to turn into a main character on *mastodon*.

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                                @davidgerard One of the main characters of Mastodon became the Main Character of Mastodon. Feels like someone wasn't specific enough with their genie wish.

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                                • rycochet@furs.socialR rycochet@furs.social

                                  @davidgerard 'Mastodon is doomed because I can't get people to pay attention to me and AI boosters!' *Monkeypaw finger curls*

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                                  @Rycochet @davidgerard You win the internet today.

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                                  • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

                                    @rootwyrm @davidgerard A bit of a tangent, but the idea that "mastodon is hostile to AI" as though that's some odd thing when polls show the public is overwhelmingly hostile to AI leads these bros to question Mastodon/fedi and what needs to happen to change that sentiment, vs them asking the real question: Why do other social networks not demonstrate the hostility to AI that masto/fedi do given that the latter seems to align with public sentiment?

                                    Ie: the complaint is the lack of manipulation.

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                                    @reflex @rootwyrm @davidgerard I know this might sound like a stretch but this is the core of the problem with firefox adding an ai kill switch instead of making all the ai stuff as installable plugins. It's a need to create a political minefield to satisfy identified opportunities without considering the established method for addressing them specifically because that method doesn't allow for coercion, manipulation, and marketing

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                                    • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

                                      @rootwyrm @davidgerard A bit of a tangent, but the idea that "mastodon is hostile to AI" as though that's some odd thing when polls show the public is overwhelmingly hostile to AI leads these bros to question Mastodon/fedi and what needs to happen to change that sentiment, vs them asking the real question: Why do other social networks not demonstrate the hostility to AI that masto/fedi do given that the latter seems to align with public sentiment?

                                      Ie: the complaint is the lack of manipulation.

                                      coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @reflex @rootwyrm @davidgerard

                                      that's a bingo

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