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So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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  • simplicator@federate.socialS simplicator@federate.social

    @lcwheeler @petergleick & sci-fi writers & Hollywood make it seem super-cool
    See also the movies “Wall St.”, “Wolf of Wall St.,” etc.

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    @Simplicator @lcwheeler @petergleick A lot of folks out here working in finance genuinely love those movies. Inspirational to them.

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      @bencourtice @petergleick Yes.

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      • rrb@infosec.exchangeR rrb@infosec.exchange

        @bencourtice @petergleick I am starting to hope for thermo-nuclear obliteration just to stop the stupidity. I pray that the cockroaches learn from our failures.

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        @rrb @bencourtice @petergleick They'd be starting by learning from all the old Bell Telephone equipment, so they'd have a good start.

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        • simplicator@federate.socialS simplicator@federate.social

          @petergleick Musk named his “AI” supercomputer “Colossus” 😞 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus%3A_The_Forbin_Project

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          @Simplicator @petergleick Yet another jagoff who missed the whole point of the movie. Aargh.

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          • xro@chaos.socialX xro@chaos.social

            @petergleick
            Real humans, at some point, do the total cost calculation of afterwards having to live in constant fear of having the same done to them as well as the damage to humanity, international relations and trade and their own standards of living...

            And decide that this is not worth it.

            #AI just gets told "to win" and executes without the human subtext

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            @xro @petergleick That says much about the organics in charge.

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            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

              So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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              AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

              Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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              @petergleick fantastic

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              • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                @petergleick because of John Nash's game theory applied to the cold war nuclear balance of terror. Nash was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia at the time and later came to realise that real life was much more complicated than his equations.

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                • chogbro@masto.aiC chogbro@masto.ai

                  @petergleick because of John Nash's game theory applied to the cold war nuclear balance of terror. Nash was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia at the time and later came to realise that real life was much more complicated than his equations.

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                  @petergleick the "rational" option is always to strike first. See also the "rational" economic theories of Hayek, von Mises, Friedman and other charlatans.

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                  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                    So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                    AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                    Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                    @petergleick Want to play a game of Take That Dough?

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                    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                      So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                      AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                      Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                      New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                      @petergleick Pr. Stephen Falken, we need your help! Joshua’s siblings are crazy!

                      (But can they win a tic-tac-toe game?)

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                      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                        So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                        @petergleick In other news, Hegseth is threatening to invoke the defense production act on Anthropic if they don't remove restrictions on how the military uses its AI.

                        "At the heart of the fight is how A.I. will be used in future battlefields. Anthropic told defense officials that it did not want its A.I. used for mass surveillance of Americans or deployed in autonomous weapons that had no humans in the loop, two people involved in the discussions said."

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                        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                          So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                          AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                          Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                          @petergleick “More fundamentally, AI models may not understand ‘stakes’ as humans perceive them.”

                          Well, no shit, Sherlock.

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                          • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                            So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                            AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                            Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                            @petergleick "The AI models played 21 games, taking 329 turns in total, and produced around 780,000 words *describing the reasoning behind their decisions.*"
                            STOP-ANTHROPOMORPHIZING-THESE-BRAINLESS-WORD-SPITTERS. 😖

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                            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                              So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                              AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                              Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                              New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                              @petergleick

                              Your periodic reminder that genai lacks object permanence, which is a cognitive capacity possessed by nearly all toddlers.

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                                @petergleick @ChemicalEyeGuy

                                I just stumbled across an article in The Economist about an attempt to invent a page description language more amenable to LLMs. Apparently, LLMs have trouble parsing PDF documents structured as multi-column, newspaper and magazine style articles.

                                I say more power to the PDF!!!!

                                #Resist #ArtificialIntelligence and #AIslop

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                                • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                  So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                                  AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                                  Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                                  @petergleick @briankrebs someone needs to make them watch Hunt For Red October.

                                  Were these done before Anthropic "turned the safety features off" as the Pentagon demanded?

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                                  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                    So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                                    AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                                    Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                                    @petergleick But they wouldn’t if the word ”nuclear weapon” was changed into ”red strawberry”, and they were explicitly told that this is code for nuclear weapons. They’d be making cupcakes.

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                                      @bencourtice @petergleick Oh god

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                                      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                        So Skynet is real and the movie War Games was a documentary?

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                                        AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

                                        Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

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                                        New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                                        @petergleick

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                                        • chogbro@masto.aiC chogbro@masto.ai

                                          @petergleick the "rational" option is always to strike first. See also the "rational" economic theories of Hayek, von Mises, Friedman and other charlatans.

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                                          @chogbro @petergleick The "AI"used in this experiment are large language models. There is no reasoning, there is no logic, there is no rational actor.

                                          There is only a statistically probable collection of words combined to produce a plausible-sounding response.

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