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  • nemeciii@mastodon.socialN nemeciii@mastodon.social

    @auser @randahl kinda moot point in my case. I have no right to vote in US elections, I'm not US citizen. 😆

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    @nemeciii @randahl Ok, you're off the hook for now 😅

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

      right, and i continually encounter this

      me: "everyone vote"

      "some people can't vote"

      me: "yes, i know, i'm not talking about those who can't, i'm talking about those who won't"

      "we should do other things"

      me: "yes i know, i never said we shouldn't. organize, educate, protest, boycott, resist: do it, all of it. and vote"

      i've been in this conversation 1,000 times

      momo@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @benroyce
      Being able to vote but deciding not to vote means fully agreeing with the outcome. It's that simple.
      @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

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      • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

        @benroyce
        Being able to vote but deciding not to vote means fully agreeing with the outcome. It's that simple.
        @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

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        @momo @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

        My grandmother had a saying "if you don't vote, you don't get to complain"

        Maybe it's time we normalise starting to ask people if they voted when they complain

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          @imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl

          If you'd paid attention you would have noticed that Joe was trying as hard as he could. Supported Unions & pushed for them the restart. Tried to get those who went to college out from under unreal debt. Worked to get the many fees that we are all buried under gone. . .the 5 bills would have put us back on our feet as a nation for the people instead of watching our neighbors hate us, tariffs that are just another tax send black shirts to our cities.

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          • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

            @imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl

            If you'd paid attention you would have noticed that Joe was trying as hard as he could. Supported Unions & pushed for them the restart. Tried to get those who went to college out from under unreal debt. Worked to get the many fees that we are all buried under gone. . .the 5 bills would have put us back on our feet as a nation for the people instead of watching our neighbors hate us, tariffs that are just another tax send black shirts to our cities.

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            @A_Minion @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

            But he's not perfect so we have to accept MAGA fascism by not voting. I'm helping! (/s)

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              @imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl I have watched for decades how our current system has developed. Blanketing all politicians are not the same. No matter what form they take it's the Right that's given us the most grief, it started with FDR, to McCarthy, to Nixon, to Reagan, then Bush, now Trump. The conservative only wants to conserve the past, what they know & think is safe. That's not saying they don't fuck up on both sides. GOP wants control, has fought for power all along.

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              • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                @imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl I have watched for decades how our current system has developed. Blanketing all politicians are not the same. No matter what form they take it's the Right that's given us the most grief, it started with FDR, to McCarthy, to Nixon, to Reagan, then Bush, now Trump. The conservative only wants to conserve the past, what they know & think is safe. That's not saying they don't fuck up on both sides. GOP wants control, has fought for power all along.

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                @A_Minion @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

                they don't even want to conserve the past

                they have an idealized mythological view of "the past" and conveniently forget all the bad stuff

                or they outright sell the concept as a purposeful lie, because they want to return to the bad stuff

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @A_Minion @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

                  But he's not perfect so we have to accept MAGA fascism by not voting. I'm helping! (/s)

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                  @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl Monty Python, "Run away, Run away!!"

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

                    right, and i continually encounter this

                    me: "everyone vote"

                    "some people can't vote"

                    me: "yes, i know, i'm not talking about those who can't, i'm talking about those who won't"

                    "we should do other things"

                    me: "yes i know, i never said we shouldn't. organize, educate, protest, boycott, resist: do it, all of it. and vote"

                    i've been in this conversation 1,000 times

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                    @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

                    The founders left it to "We The People" & we need to pay attention, both senate and house member need to be carefully chosen just as much as presidents. State congress' need watching as well. . . All the way Down Ballot even judges need to be vetted. Yes vote, if there is no one to vote for there is someone or something to vote against. As many people as possible need access to vote.

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                    • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl

                      The founders left it to "We The People" & we need to pay attention, both senate and house member need to be carefully chosen just as much as presidents. State congress' need watching as well. . . All the way Down Ballot even judges need to be vetted. Yes vote, if there is no one to vote for there is someone or something to vote against. As many people as possible need access to vote.

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                      @A_Minion @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl One thing conservatives have done extremely well is pushing candidates and policies at *all* levels of government. School boards, state judges, city councils, utility boards, clerks offices, etc. etc. All these wins, many in previously boring bureaucratic positions, set the stage for their overall takeover of the levers of government.

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