This is the key difference:
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@mxchara @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl but realistically, the overwhelming majority of campaigns require outreach that requires payment via political donations.
I’d imagine a better angle is less about removing campaigning from people’s lives and attention span and rather reduce incentives for the worst among us to seek and hold elected office. Perhaps accepting office requires swearing over one’s ability to seek employment in certain
@mxchara @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl areas after they leave office - that is, stopping someone from holding private positions in those industries or areas that they governed/legislated about. Killing lobbying alone would revolutionize politics as is.
I see the main frustration with campaigning stemming from it interrupting lives that have less and less time to give because of shitty politics, besides.
But yeah, it’s…fun, right now…
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@imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
right, and i continually encounter this
me: "everyone vote"
"some people can't vote"
me: "yes, i know, i'm not talking about those who can't, i'm talking about those who won't"
"we should do other things"
me: "yes i know, i never said we shouldn't. organize, educate, protest, boycott, resist: do it, all of it. and vote"
i've been in this conversation 1,000 times
@benroyce
Being able to vote but deciding not to vote means fully agreeing with the outcome. It's that simple.
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@benroyce
Being able to vote but deciding not to vote means fully agreeing with the outcome. It's that simple.
@imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl@momo @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
My grandmother had a saying "if you don't vote, you don't get to complain"
Maybe it's time we normalise starting to ask people if they voted when they complain
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@imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl
If you'd paid attention you would have noticed that Joe was trying as hard as he could. Supported Unions & pushed for them the restart. Tried to get those who went to college out from under unreal debt. Worked to get the many fees that we are all buried under gone. . .the 5 bills would have put us back on our feet as a nation for the people instead of watching our neighbors hate us, tariffs that are just another tax send black shirts to our cities.
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@imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl
If you'd paid attention you would have noticed that Joe was trying as hard as he could. Supported Unions & pushed for them the restart. Tried to get those who went to college out from under unreal debt. Worked to get the many fees that we are all buried under gone. . .the 5 bills would have put us back on our feet as a nation for the people instead of watching our neighbors hate us, tariffs that are just another tax send black shirts to our cities.
@A_Minion @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
But he's not perfect so we have to accept MAGA fascism by not voting. I'm helping! (/s)
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@imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl I have watched for decades how our current system has developed. Blanketing all politicians are not the same. No matter what form they take it's the Right that's given us the most grief, it started with FDR, to McCarthy, to Nixon, to Reagan, then Bush, now Trump. The conservative only wants to conserve the past, what they know & think is safe. That's not saying they don't fuck up on both sides. GOP wants control, has fought for power all along.
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@imanormalperson @benroyce @GoSeiGer @randahl I have watched for decades how our current system has developed. Blanketing all politicians are not the same. No matter what form they take it's the Right that's given us the most grief, it started with FDR, to McCarthy, to Nixon, to Reagan, then Bush, now Trump. The conservative only wants to conserve the past, what they know & think is safe. That's not saying they don't fuck up on both sides. GOP wants control, has fought for power all along.
@A_Minion @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
they don't even want to conserve the past
they have an idealized mythological view of "the past" and conveniently forget all the bad stuff
or they outright sell the concept as a purposeful lie, because they want to return to the bad stuff
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@A_Minion @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
But he's not perfect so we have to accept MAGA fascism by not voting. I'm helping! (/s)
@benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl Monty Python, "Run away, Run away!!"
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@imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
right, and i continually encounter this
me: "everyone vote"
"some people can't vote"
me: "yes, i know, i'm not talking about those who can't, i'm talking about those who won't"
"we should do other things"
me: "yes i know, i never said we shouldn't. organize, educate, protest, boycott, resist: do it, all of it. and vote"
i've been in this conversation 1,000 times
@benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
The founders left it to "We The People" & we need to pay attention, both senate and house member need to be carefully chosen just as much as presidents. State congress' need watching as well. . . All the way Down Ballot even judges need to be vetted. Yes vote, if there is no one to vote for there is someone or something to vote against. As many people as possible need access to vote.
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@benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl
The founders left it to "We The People" & we need to pay attention, both senate and house member need to be carefully chosen just as much as presidents. State congress' need watching as well. . . All the way Down Ballot even judges need to be vetted. Yes vote, if there is no one to vote for there is someone or something to vote against. As many people as possible need access to vote.
@A_Minion @benroyce @imanormalperson @GoSeiGer @randahl One thing conservatives have done extremely well is pushing candidates and policies at *all* levels of government. School boards, state judges, city councils, utility boards, clerks offices, etc. etc. All these wins, many in previously boring bureaucratic positions, set the stage for their overall takeover of the levers of government.
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