Do you work in an #agile team?
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Do you work in an #agile team? What is your most valuable meeting or ritual, and which one is the least valuable? Why?
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Do you work in an #agile team? What is your most valuable meeting or ritual, and which one is the least valuable? Why?
@nobsagile I think I could run without planning meetings, only with standups. Maybe a mature team could even go without standups. On the other hand, demo meetings bring the most value, because they bring the feedback from client, and we clearly show our value by demonstrating the increment. And retrospectives keep us together and continually improving.
Wait - is this a trick question? If a ritual is not valuable, it shouldn't even be there. -
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@nobsagile I think I could run without planning meetings, only with standups. Maybe a mature team could even go without standups. On the other hand, demo meetings bring the most value, because they bring the feedback from client, and we clearly show our value by demonstrating the increment. And retrospectives keep us together and continually improving.
Wait - is this a trick question? If a ritual is not valuable, it shouldn't even be there.@phuquocdevs Hi! I am thinking that maybe a team (not every team) could be a productive without any meeting/ritual if the are experienced enough to understand the mechanics of the Work-Feedback Loop. I would call that to have more "liquid" meeting culture and do only meetings if necessary. Skip daily or refinement if not needed for example. Only do the things that are needed for a robust Work-Feedback Loop.
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@phuquocdevs Hi! I am thinking that maybe a team (not every team) could be a productive without any meeting/ritual if the are experienced enough to understand the mechanics of the Work-Feedback Loop. I would call that to have more "liquid" meeting culture and do only meetings if necessary. Skip daily or refinement if not needed for example. Only do the things that are needed for a robust Work-Feedback Loop.
@nobsagile Yes, absolutely, but it's quite hard to find enough people who really understand the essence of agile to the point they can get the benefits by themselves. The rituals make it also a bit more efficient I think, such as we don't have to be looking for a time when everyone is available every time we want to discuss some improvement, we can just do it on the next retro, everyone knows when that will be.
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@nobsagile Yes, absolutely, but it's quite hard to find enough people who really understand the essence of agile to the point they can get the benefits by themselves. The rituals make it also a bit more efficient I think, such as we don't have to be looking for a time when everyone is available every time we want to discuss some improvement, we can just do it on the next retro, everyone knows when that will be.
@phuquocdevs agreed. Maybe discussing my thinking model can help to get more efficient with choosing the right meeting for the right time (I think, meetings are valuable if done right)
Work–Feedback Loop – Conceptual model for organizational learning ability
A conceptual model for analyzing organizational learning ability. Not about practices, but about structural feedback coupling between work and reality.
No Bullshit Agile (no-bullshit-agile.com)
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@phuquocdevs agreed. Maybe discussing my thinking model can help to get more efficient with choosing the right meeting for the right time (I think, meetings are valuable if done right)
Work–Feedback Loop – Conceptual model for organizational learning ability
A conceptual model for analyzing organizational learning ability. Not about practices, but about structural feedback coupling between work and reality.
No Bullshit Agile (no-bullshit-agile.com)
@nobsagile yes, I read that page a while ago, I liked the "decision latency". I know companies who have decision latency on the order of quarters or even years, but still call themselves "agile". Definitely a fresh angle to look at it.
