People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes.
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@hacks4pancakes I’m
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes I hadn’t had time to watch Starfleet Academy, but the way certain demographics reacted sounded like it was worth the watch, Discovery had its moments that were a bit flat but largely I enjoyed it particularly after the jump to the 32nd
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@hacks4pancakes I enjoyed both. Really enjoyed SFA, actually. Definitely not envious of Ake's Frank Lloyd Wright inspired office. No, not at all…
@anthony @hacks4pancakes OMG I love it so much!!!! I wish I had that office/quarters.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes as a straight white old dude I could not agree with you more. The show came at us from a completely different vector and I am sad that it was cancelled.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes I felt a little old watching Academy, but the characters and cast were so great. I loved the chemistry of the faculty and of Holly Hunter vs Paul Giamatti
And Discovery was just fucking fantastic.
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Not me being actual walking Captain Ake as a senior engineer and military veteran.
@hacks4pancakes
Everyone who says "Not my *insert franchise here*" is speaking from a place of misguided nostalgia.Yes, I'm a straight white man. I also grew up on Next Generation Trek and the TOS movies. Anyone who says Discovery and Starfleet Academy aren't Star Trek needs their heads examined.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
Startrek has always changed with the times and been a bastion of diversity and representation. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand startrek in my humble opinion.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes As a straight, cis, white millennial male my only gripe with Discovery is that it wasn’t set int the 32nd century from the beginning. These shows live up to Star Trek’s core ideals and are products of their time tackling issues of their time, just as the Treks that came before them did.
People who bemoan “woke” Star Trek never truly understood it to begin with.
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Months of me wanting to scream, “but we’re the audience for this, not you!” Into an internet void.
@hacks4pancakes Oh, yes, I VERY much agree, this video reaction from a white cishet guy “critic” had me LIVID: https://tech.lgbt/@crowbriarhexe/116286573751593421
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes Discovery is the only one I've watched a full series of and I take a sick pleasure in letting certain people know this.
I'm not the target audience for these "legacy franchise" things anyway. I'll watch utter muck if it's at least new. But if you are going to do something in a really well-established setting it only makes sense to try something new.
(Andor did this but in a "stories for boys" way so that's allowed, or something)
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes Agreed.
I absolutely loved Discovery, and it was the re-entry point for me to check out other newer Trekkie shows. The fact that it's "so contentious" tells me the show did what it set out to do: hook (or summon back) a broader audience.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes As a stale pale male, the thing that bothers me most about Academy and post-jump Disco is the ship sections not touching. That's three ships in formation! That is not one ship! I don't care if it identifies as the same ship!
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes Kurtzman Trek apologists really need to pick a lane between "Trek has always been woke" and "Finally, the first Trek that is not solely for toxic white dudebros" it's VERY confusing
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes Actually I am straight white male and Gen X and I love Starfleet Academy and I love the glorious queerness of Discovery even if Michael is to much of a Mary Sue. I think who doesn't and calls themselves a trekker should read up on the IDIC principle.
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Months of me wanting to scream, “but we’re the audience for this, not you!” Into an internet void.
@hacks4pancakes I'm not the target audience. And I'm completely ok with that.
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Months of me wanting to scream, “but we’re the audience for this, not you!” Into an internet void.
@hacks4pancakes Straight old white guy here. I was totally into Starfleet Academy. Commander Reno is my spirit animal.
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Months of me wanting to scream, “but we’re the audience for this, not you!” Into an internet void.
I was actually thinking about this as I was watching #StarfleetAcademy.
I'm an absolutely from-the-start 1st Gen #Trekkie
& I have my issues with the quality of some of the writing.
But I can't express how stoked I am to see the wild range & variety of characters. It's just so freakin' glorious.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes Ffff, this thread is how I found out that SFA will only get one more season.
I had mixed feelings about Discovery over its run, but loved SFA immediately. It was my favourite of the live action new Trek series, hands down.
It's wild to me to what degree certain franchise fans don't acknowledge or even *see* who has actually been in their fandom for literal decades, ever since there's been a fandom; before there was an internet, and sometimes before they were on Earth, enjoying something even though it wasn't primarily intended for them.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes People apparently also don't want to be reminded of what would've happened to shows like TNG had they been judged by the audience reception to their early seasons.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes I am not straight and not male (though admittedly, I'm old) and I couldn't bear watching more than 4 episodes of Discovery. It wasn't well-written and the characters were stereotypes. I don't fault anyone for liking it but how someone can relate to the characters without doing some very heavy lifting is beyond me.
